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  • in reply to: IAF News & Discussion Feb-Mar 07 #2537270
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    Indian missile a ‘dud’, air force doesn’t want it EnlargeA file picture of the Akash missile system

    Serious doubts have been raised by air force officers about the effectiveness of the Akash missile system, according to confidential documents of the Indian Air Force (IAF) seen by HT. The surface-to-air missile system, developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), consistently failed during trials, the papers show.

    DRDO’s fault?

    Surface-to-air Trishul missile system was scrapped last year. It remained at trial stage for 23 years.

    Main battle tank Arjun has been undergoing trials for the past 16 years. The Russian T-90 is still the mainstay of the armoured corps.

    Light combat aircraft Tejas is still at trial stage after 23 years. The date of completion for its engine has been revised from 1996 to 2009.

    In March, a parliamentary standing committee on defence recommended a complete review of the structure and functioning of the DRDO.

    The DRDO says all doubts have been cleared and the missile system is a success. But the IAF is yet to buy and deploy the missile system.

    Doubts about the medium-range Akash missile system, developed at a cost of Rs 800 crore after more than two decades of research and trials, emerged at a meeting called by the Western Air Command in Delhi last year. Sixty middle-level and senior IAF officers attended the meeting.

    A presentation, based on the report of an IAF expert who had witnessed the trials, contained several startling revelations. “The IAF expert witnessed repeated cases of missile parts falling off during many trials. He recommended that the Akash missile system was not fit to be deployed,” a senior officer, who attended the presentation, told HT.

    Pointing out major flaws in this missile system, developed as a part of the country’s Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme, the report presented to the IAF officers says, “The expert noticed it took 25 minutes to load a single missile on the launcher, which rendered this missile system unfit for use in war-like situations. The night loading time would therefore automatically be twice more than daytime.”

    Describing the Akash missile trials as a “disaster”, the presentation report says, “Out of 20 test trials seen by the IAF expert, the majority of them ended in a failure.”

    “It was not capable of picking up low-level targets over any sea, due to multi-path reflection. The missile warhead was also not capable of engaging present-generation targets, due to repeated failures,” the report says.

    However, the DRDO has strongly defended the missile system. In a written response to queries by HT, the DRDO said it was “fully satisfied with the current status of trials of Akash. Currently all doubts have been cleared and resolved”.

    “The missile system is now complete after successful trials and the organisation is confident about its success,” the DRDO added.

    The IAF report criticised the DRDO and senior officials from the Ministry of Defence, saying, “There was deliberate data suppression and the IAF was pressured to either change or withdraw the report.”

    The report indicates that desperate moves were made during the trials to prove that the system was a success. “A radar was placed on a 13-metre-high platform for all trials, to increase the efficiency of the missile system artificially, which would not be the case in hostile conditions of war,” it says.

    Cautioning the IAF on the limitations of the Akash missile system, the report says, “In its present status, Project Akash cannot meet the operational requirements of the IAF, due to major design flaws, and if the IAF wanted to use this particular missile system, then it would have to lower its acceptability standards.”

    The DRDO, however, said the Akash missile system had an edge over other systems due to its multi-target handling capacity, being a fully automatic system. It said since the system was completely indigenous, it could be quickly upgraded within the country.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?id=15b77d03-5681-44e5-abef-cc9265d37d69&&Headline=Indian+missile+a+%e2%80%98dud%e2%80%99%2c+air+force+doesn%e2%80%99t+want+it

    in reply to: Pakistan's New and Upgraded Cruise Missile #1800488
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    Lets just stop the pathetic bashing, a lot of you seem to be non-aerospace-engineering related, giving advice on things you dont seem to understand. Pls dont give your views based on BCRAP

    You dont invent things if you already can aquire them in another way…thats ‘common egnineering sense’…although it looks like some instruments/structures can be acquired from non-indigenous sources, its still a Pakistani product…if making cruise missiles was just easy copying crashed cruise missiles…alot of countrys would already have them. Some common elements are always used from existing qualified systems….’if it works than use it untill you can improve it’ concept

    in reply to: FC-1 Prototype 04: the Saga Continues #2544992
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    It looks like they are wearing new patches for the JF-17 SQN…Nice pics !

    in reply to: FC-1 Prototype 04: the Saga Continues #2527100
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    Yeah I found that amusing as well considering Pakistan has virtually no BVR capability and is vastly out numbered! It’s not unusual in Indian news threads for the idea to crop up. Not that I’m being critical of Pakistans airforce they are professional and well trained. Down the line with F16, JF17, J10 and the AEW aircraft I think Pakistan will at least have a credible deterrant.

    As I said earlier I wouldn’t be surprised if the issue is fudged somehow (most likely the engines remaining chinese property) and some JF17 enter service. If they are delayed the F16 MLU program will become more important as I presume the AMRAAM being purchased will be integrated at last giving Pakistan a half decent BVR capability.

    Of course prior to America lifting its embargo the JF17 was the only jet on the cards with a BVR capability available to Pakistan. Now that Pakistan will be updating her F16 fleet and buying new examples as well I think you will see the JF17 refocusing on the support role.

    Its because of the developments which are following quickly upon each other, not about the state of the PAF now.

    “Unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in Indian Air Force’s force levels, the nation will for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan.”

    This is a what the three-page letter of warning, written by Air Chief Marshal Tyagi to Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, says.

    http://www.ibnlive.com/news/special-iaf-may-lose-out-to-pak/22834-3-single.html

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    complete nonsense. why would they do research in US? If they know how do research they will never be in US at first place. Russia was the same closed society like China.

    Their are quite a lot of chinese doing research in different R&D institutions in the US & Europe. But let us just stick to the topic instead of going into a side discussion.

    in reply to: Code Name for the J-10 Any Takers? #2537455
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    Its Vigorous Dragon

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    Found a new J-10 Promotional video, nice compilation with nice music 😉

    http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=8869512750983413810

    Arshad
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    Looks good nice ones!

    in reply to: ERIEYE and Blind Spots #2521960
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    Let me repeat. It is a physical impossibility to radiate at 0/180 angle from the shown antenna array. Claims otherwise will be just that, claims.

    Apparently its not impossible for the ERIEYE. I dont think you/we have all the data on how it is actually achieved but that isnt neccessary as the ‘operators’ and the company itself claim to have 360 degree coverage. 😉

    in reply to: Iranian Shafagh fighter #2582783
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    Iranian Aircraft Manufacturing Industries (HESA), near Esfahan, has so far modified nine retired F-5As to F-5B Simorgh ( a mystical persian bird) configration, with help of Pakistani engineers. This modification which adds a second cockpit, is to fulfill an IRIAF requirement for more fast jet trainers. All the aircraft serve with the training unit based at Shiraz.

    Never heard of this :confused: …..do you have any sources ?

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2594412
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    Nice video showing the FC-1 P4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhTIeyQTOI

    in reply to: General Discussion #304273
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    Terrorists getting nukes is very doubtfull. To handle those devices is very complex, requires a lot of experienced personal, infrastructure….on the other hand the real threath is considered to be dirty bombs, and a lot of material can be found around russia. The possibility of Iranians ‘giving’ nukes to terrorists is aroudn BS.

    in reply to: Iran……what do we do? #1924464
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    Terrorists getting nukes is very doubtfull. To handle those devices is very complex, requires a lot of experienced personal, infrastructure….on the other hand the real threath is considered to be dirty bombs, and a lot of material can be found around russia. The possibility of Iranians ‘giving’ nukes to terrorists is aroudn BS.

    in reply to: General Discussion #304282
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    By International Law the Airspace belonging to a country is defined as up to around 100 km, if the missiles flys over japan above this its not flying in Japanese airspace. Otherwise the shuttle would violate a lot of airspaces.

    in reply to: North Korea…..what do we do? #1924470
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    By International Law the Airspace belonging to a country is defined as up to around 100 km, if the missiles flys over japan above this its not flying in Japanese airspace. Otherwise the shuttle would violate a lot of airspaces.

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