As PLA said wise move to speed up the production for the 50 batch. i dont understand that some are whining about this lets get over it. :confused:

Also they had lots of new companys which are now competing for the avionics/electronic set etc. they are also bussy reviewing these new potential electronics.

Found this article for you

The Soviet Anti-Satellite System – ASAT
(IS Satellites, IS – Istrebitel (killer) of Satellites).

Even today, there everything is still not known about this system. During the test period there were two types of the satellites used in the system – active – real killers (a.k.a. Istrebitel which means killer), and passive – targets. The first test of the IS – under the name of “Polyot-1” and “Polyot-2” were conducted in 1963 and 1964. The main purpose of those launches was to test the feasibility of on the orbital maneuvers and multiple ignitions of the engines. Subsequently there were 19 “target” tests and 22 IS (Killer) tests. These lasted until June 18, 1982. The system was “accepted” as “standard” in 1972. The actual system was comprised not only of ISs and “targets” but also on-ground radar systems for “Space environment Control”, targeting on-ground centers, Command and control and so on. These were all constructed by 1972.

On March 23,1983 Secretary General Of Communist Party Politburo Yuri Andropov announced that ASAT system design and construction in the Soviet Union would cease. This was a show of good faith for then President Reagan who had just started SDI – But SDI proceeded none the lessen – so the Soviet government stopped “the moratorium” in September 1986. The USA ceased SDI program in 1988.

There have been no tests of the Soviet ASAT system since June 1982 – however, in April 1991 there was a Russian Government Decree “to accept for the exploitation a complex of anti-space defense – IS”. The ISs tested in the 70’s were ready for launch within 90 minutes (using a Tsiklon booster), and could approach an enemy “target” within 40- 50 minutes and hit with an accuracy of approximately 1 kilometer.

All IS tests, beyond the first two, were under the name of “Cosmos” satellites (## 217, 248, 249, 252, 291, 316, 373, 374, 375, 394, 397, 404, 459, 462, 521, 803, 804, 814, 839, 843, 880, 909, 910, 918, 959, 961, 967, 970, 1169, 1174, 1241, 1243, 1258, 1379)

The Kosmos-1379 IS successfully “hit” a target that was a mock-up of a “Transit” – an American communication satellite!

IS 2

bewildering! Pak seems to the sink for the most diverse collection of used gear.
sounds like they are husbanding scarce funds for new purchases. the situation cant be too good if crated Libyan spares are purchased in preference to french made ones.

Cost/Quality My friend 😀 if they meet the requirements, why not (especially if its cheap)

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So one to bad maintance, one to Engine stall, and this mauritius incident the pilot forgot his landinggears :eek:. So they are not related incidents.

different one more closeup still cant see the smoke :confused:

well the media is mostly in the subcontinent indeed not so accurate, bure here its telling what a they got from a source not their own analysis, the first one is just a problem which was taken up by the indian media and not made up. i didnt post these news to base pakistans future security but as some examples taken up by the indians themselves. A war is indeed a more complex thing. A kind of “cost/benefit” analysis is often made to check if “its worth it” and a war between the two nations isnt worth it indeed it seems.

The fact that india has BVR and pakistan has not plays a roll. But BVR training even takes times the hole between PAF and IAF was in the past not present its new thing and it will be over soon, by paf introducing jf-17/j-10 and other fighter (if possible of course). With the lack of BVR its obvious that paf will be training hard on wvr and anti-bvr tactics (as they once mentioned). BVR takes your chances up by giving you the chance to play offensive but its not a sure kill. Most battles took place in the WVR area (even in the BVR era). Most pilots get shot down becaus of the lack of situational awareness and in that part PAF is investing a lot in that are. PAF F-16’s/Upgraded mirage have overhauled rardar systems, all the stations joined up. And also dont forgett that india doesnt have that many mki’s.