LOL, It’s 21st century, man. Beating an old coffin from the 50s like MiG-21 is, that is truly a hilarious achievement! :rolleyes:

BTW, Chinese stuff is only interesting in medium or low-tech. Hi-tech stuff is either nonexistant or hilariously expensive. Some time ago I have tried to purchase a pair of Chinese license produced Night Vision goggles TK-1 SuperGen (something between Gen2+ and Gen3) only to find out that they were more than twice as expensive as the original LZOS ONV-2/Newcon NVS-7. Bloody annoying.

did you know night google and fighter jet is different things?
I buy car and American car is cheap but American Jet is so expensive.

anyway why you buy night google for? what you trying to look at night? owl?

Don’t even try to get into a topic you got no basic knowledge about. The big tank you mention is a bolt-on conformal tank – two Yemeni hillbillies with a screwdriver can put it on or remove it within twenty minutes. The fact that it does not appear on the photos from MAKS says less than nothing. I suggest you do your homework prior to getting into severe details.

Exactly what better aircraft are those? Like Hornets? You cannot simply switch a Hornet pilot to Fulcrum from one day to another.

Malaysia is lacking Fulcrum pilots for four reasons and none of them is related to MiG-29 in any way:

– lack of sufficient numbers of trainers like Macchi MB-339
– shortcomings in the TUDM training programme
– preserved pilots for incoming Su-30MKM
– many Fulcrum pilots left for service in low-cost aviation carriers like Air Asia

thank you, so you know also if they have the chance, every air force use Russian rather go for Su-30 series than MiG-29. Even Russian Navy prefer Su-30 series than miG-29.

oh, also you do not have proofs of two Yemeni people can detach the tank, it is just claim from some news site, there is no such thing. if you believe such things, show proof that it can be remove so easily.

No he is just a chinese who can’t comprehend that the Mig-29 is a better plane than the crappy J-10 and FC-1. It is quiet evident from his posts.

now we see what kind of person you are, angry boy blinded by Indian nationalism.

now let us have some science and reality

this is MiG-29SMT

it only have 3 pylon on each wing and the center pylon. not different from regular MiG-29 lay out but just have big tank on the back. you put on two big fuel tank like this..

it become a flying tanker like KC-135 or F-18E
but Yemen they buy this one

no big tank on the back, so same gas problem, same need to carry more gas tank, not much weapon load you can carry. you buy this aircraft and it become a tanker.
do not bring Malaysia here. They have pilot shortage yes, that is why they prefer to keep pilot on better aircraft and put in storage the more useless one. you may say MiG-29 keep crashing alot because of bad pilots and tatic, but you will never find way for the MiG-29 to be used in the right tactic because in a war, it is never like that. It is like saying a Knight is good only if the barbarian do not have weapon to fight back with, and is sleeping and tied down to the grass.

You know the one, it looks an awful lot like the first picture in this thread…

what make you think that one is 5th generation fighter?

Russia’s 5th generation fighter demonstrator was virtually complete in 1992. Another 5th generation technology demonstrator was airborne in 1997. China might be “next”, but they aren’t beating the Russians to a single thing unless the J-XX is in actual service ahead of the PAK-FA.

S-37 is not stealth fighter if you thinking that one. if not then show me which one you talking about.

Competition still alive.
Undiluted GLONASS from 2007 on.

http://www.gpsdaily.com/reports/Russia_To_Lift_Glonass_Restrictions_For_Accurate_Civilian_Use_999.html

but Russia do not have Kazakistan to use anymore, so fees to send civilian product up will be required from both country. not cheap. Other Russia launch pad is in cold areas. China can send them from sunny Xinjiang. it is the area you see in Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon where the barbarain lives. good place for rocket sending. cheaper too.

BS as usual. IAF is upgrading the Mig-29’s and IN just ordered new ones and will follow up the order with 30 new ones. Yemen and algeria ordered new SMT’s. Except a few eastern european countries which desperately needed the money and a seal of approval from NATO, no one has got rid of Mig-29’s for F-16’s.

your example is not good because the country you say have no choice. What other airplane can Indai use on Gorshkov that do not need catapult? just MiG-29K and Harrier :rolleyes:
What western country will sell latest fighter to Algeria? Just Russia
what airplane can Yemen afford? Just Russia :rolleyes:

Country where they have more options.. they buy others
Bangladesh – got rid of MiG-29 and go for Chinese because it is easy to fly and cheap to operate
Malaysia – priority go to F-18E and Su-30, not MiG-29
India – prefer Mirage 2000 and Su-30
Poland – prefer brand new F-16

and they say MiG-29 suck because the user did not use it like how it is supposed to be use.. so i ask you how is it suppose to be use eh?

AdmarilZhengHe wrote:

Because the MiG-21 isn’t in production any more.

It’s not the same thing. Chinese products (ranging from T-shirts to fighter planes) are cheaper, but of lower quality.
But this is not the point here. The point is that Greece already has in service SAMs in the same class as the ones currently produced by China (as I was pointing out in my previous post), so there is no point in buying a redundant system, no matter how cheap it is.

I am using my brain, unfortunatly the same thing cannot be said about you.

you have proof current chinese product is lower quality? sound like you are not using the brain of yours. Go compare WS-10 engine with AL-31 or newest J-7 with MiG-21