I’m afraid not Deino, but apparently it’s been trending on Chinese defence forums, thought you may have some leads that could shed some more light on it. We know that JF-17s have been used in exercises against the PLAF, but if this is true, then it would be the first account of the much speculated assumption that the PAF have used their Vipers with the PLAF, or allowed the PLAF access to the platform in some capacity. But the most interesting question would be where, China or Pakistan, or maybe Turkey? I think there was at least one occasion when the PLAF was in Turkey at the same time as the PAF, but not sure if J-10s were detached.

PAF Considering T-50 for LIFT

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/training-simulation/2015/04/19/pakistan-trainer-t50-china-jf17-lift-korea/25876281/

Makes little sense even if the PAF had the luxury in ordering the T-50. A twin seat JF-17 would probably be a better choice and be fully combat capable. The L-15 would be a more suitable alternative for pilots graduating from the K-8P. I think historically the PAF has relied on twin seat versions of their combat aircraft for lead in training, rather than a dedicated LIFT. There’s strong arguments for both, but I think there’s greater efficiencies to be had in OCUs.

My guess would be the Mi-35 for dedicated airborne assault and special forces missions, while the T-129/Z-10 are being considered for dedicated anti-armour roles to replace their existing Cobra fleet.

They have operated the Puma for a long time, I wonder whether they ever considered the Rooivalk considering the significant parts commonality with the Puma, as well as the similar operating conditions the Rooivalk was designed for.

There’s so much going on aerodynamically with the Draken. What STR figures could it achieve with such a large surface area?

Very nice interiors. A copy of the 737 Wedgetail. An impressively exact copy.

Here’s the Turkish president in the 737. Or maybe its the KE-03, I can’t really tell.

Thanks, clearly incorrect. I thought it looked somewhat too narrow to be the fuselage of the Y-8 Category II version. This is likely to be interior configuration.

To admit I’m a bit surprised … I thought that type was already in service. Even more I’m surprised by the new designation KE-03 … any idea what’s the meaning of KE ??

Deino

My guess would be FOC? And Karakorum Eagle for KE?

Interior of the KE-03

Any thoughts on what the HMC and HOBS missile combo will be for future Blocks with the PAF? On previous occasions, it has been mentioned that a Chinese combo is being developed, most likely based on the PL-10? However, at the most recent Zuhai, the PAF stated other options may be considered, maybe the A-Darter? Given that the Saudis were considering the JF-17 equipped with the EJ200 (providing commonality with their Tiffies I assume), it appears the JF-17 is open to a number of customer specific options, wallet permitting of course.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/hal-will-take-full-responsibility-for-rafales/

Seems like HAL may have blinked first, if this is true. I wonder if there’s anything Dassault had to give for this to happen.