Who cares? A mucky “journalist,” plying his mucky trade, and catching out a mucky-minded politician. Yet another non-story, though, with your record on here, it’s perfectly understandable why you’re fascinated by it.
Cerulean Blue it is not!
Which is not how Gordon Mitchell described it; he said “cerulean blue,” which, for those educated “back then,” being non-capitalised, means that it’s a description, not a name.
K5054 (as related by/to Dr. Alfred Price, in “The Spitfire Story) was painted by the company which Rolls-Royce used for their vehicles (not by Vickers, themselves,) and their company colour was a blue, matched to the Mediterranean sky.
So what.
I’m sure no one in the UK has any envy towards expensive German cars. Must be why you don’t see any on the roads.
Which seems to indicate that it’s a very long time since you had the dreadful experience of visiting these shores.
Mk 19? surely you mean mk14 edgar.RM689 was a yucky blue colour in the 60s,think it was the rolls-royce house colours of that time.
True, sorry about that; should have stopped and thought about what I was writing.
It would be a great colour if one was restoring a Triumph Spitfire….and wasn’t concerned with restoring it to stock configuration.
And if you’re not too concerned about it not being powered by a Rolls-Royce engine.
Rolls-Royce staff, when at Bristol rebuilding their XIX, were of the opinion it was probably painted in R-R’s “in-house” blue, which was on all their vehicles at the time (it’s always quoted as being a car paint.) There is (or was) some original blue remaining on R-R buildings in Nottingham.
An artist (who was a relative of Mitchell) told me, about 30 years ago, that K5054 was originally a “yucky green,” which sounds like a possibility for anodised metal (which the Air Ministry had specified.)
Quite possibly the difficulty (even impossibility) of carrying out “blind” riveting; some of the skins on the Mk.I Spitfire wings and tailplane were retained by countersunk screws, not rivets.
“Everyone rises to the level of their own incompetence.” The Peter Principle still applies.
[I]”I opine for keeping the team, but in a smaller format”.
The Red Arrow?
The Red Darts pub team.
Don’t anticipate, but wait for the question, then answer it simply and truthfully, and don’t elaborate. Children can take a lot, but not lies, or being evasive; you might well find that he’s getting (duff) information from the class know-all, and your response could just get “Oh, can I go out and play football, now?” I remember talking to my godson, when he was 11, and his unhappy response “My dad won’t talk to me about it.”
bad mouthing the Yanks and building up the UKup the UK…jingoism works both ways.
Even though it suits you to believe otherwise, I see WWII as a partnership which actually worked, and is why I viewed with deep misgivings the idea of Scotland leaving; too many Scots seemed to have a Hollywood “Braveheart” view of independence, and couldn’t look past a repeat of Bannockburn.
Returning to Scotland, after only two days, we have the usual suspects going on about how nothing has changed/will change, and how you can’t trust the politicians’ promises made before the vote; welcome to the real world, folks, as an ex-girlfriend was fond of saying, “promises are like pie-crust, made to be broken” (and she broke hers.)
I believe he was provoked by Edgar’s dig at America joining in late – or doesn’t that count because Edgar isn’t a yank?
Actually I was the one provoked by his asinine comment that we only go for small opponents, which, of course, true to your partialist nature, you conveniently ignore.
Seriously, the UK could not have won WWII on its own. .
You really should broaden your horizon beyond American history books; we had Canada, India, Australia, New Zealand (plus sundry other little countries across the globe) to help.
Try reading “Britain’s War Machine,” by David Edgerton; it’s published by Oxford University Press, in the U.S., and you might find it illuminating (if you remove your stars-and-stripes-coloured glasses, first.)
But what do I know, I only majored in American history in University
Perhaps you should have done world history?
if push comes to shove let the Americans sort it out.
Its solution, don’t go to war unless its against a lesser for (the Falklands) or part of a broad coalition where others can contribute what you lack.
So, remind us when you took the lead against Germany; 4 years late, the first time, and 2 years late the second, wasn’t it?
If no Moderator can throw any light on what seems to be an unwarranted admonition them, perhaps some other person/s can.
I fear, John, that you don’t understand the system.
It’s perfectly acceptable for someone to insult this nation and its people; it’s perfectly acceptable for someone to include THAT four-letter word in their pseudonym; it’s perfectly acceptable to use offensive language and (inadequately) “hide” swearwords with asterisks.
However, if you defend this nation’s reputation, using normal, everyday words and language, you break the site’s rules.