I’m waiting for the plague of locusts

Try the Palace of Westminster.
Apparently, this time, the Saharan pollution is intermingled with European pollution which is all being blown here by easterlies; the European court is threatening to fine this country because of its high levels of pollution. I wonder if anyone else can detect any irony in that.

And, this gentleman, from Burma, who you say sabotaged your aeroplane; do you have any evidence of that?

And with children, outside, desperate to make sure they don’t fritter away their inheritance before they shuffle off.

The only parties that I can think of, in my lifetime, which spoke with one voice are the Nazis and the communists, probably because their “members” were dead if they didn’t toe the line. If someone isn’t allowed to express a personal opinion, however distasteful other individuals might find it, then several million Allied military and civilian personnel have died in vain.

Why, is that what you do?
Seriously that would never have entered my head; are you so wrapped up in violence that it is immediately what you thought? What does that say about you?.

Only that you delight in attaching labels to others, while having no evidence to support it.

Indeed, and you may defend his word with your life – but care still needs to be taken due to the Race Relations Act 1976 (et al) which outlaws discrimination on racial grounds and oversees relations between people of different racial groups. Telling somebody ‘of colour’ to go back to ‘another country’ on the basis of their ‘colour’ is frowned upon by law.

And bringing down the full majesty of the law onto someone simply for saying something is the behaviour of the bigot; if you can’t persuade, simply by the power of your rhetoric, someone of the wrongness of their behaviour, then leave the floor clear for someone who can.

Ho ho… Since my views are different to yours I must be the enemy – and that of all the right-thinking, decent, hard working man in the street too.
We thrive on discussion – but there needs to be discussion otherwise you will just go about discussing bloody Top Gear all s0dding week… My view is contrary to yours: therefore discuss why I am your enemy. Please?

Who said anything about enemies? You do not figure large enough, in my life, to assume such a mantle; there are far too many, on the net, who, like you, hide behind a pseudonym, make provocative statements, then, when someone reacts, produce the wide-eyed innocent “Who, me?” reaction, and continue to answer a question with more questions, solely with a view to getting an angry reaction.

Well done. You have worked out my game plan… I find a subject and try to kick off a discussion and one this one you bit!
Now, pick a subject of your own and discuss. Or would you rather sit there looking at a dead forum?

If it doesn’t include your “stimulating conversation,” most definitely. Not far from here is a thread, with a member desperately asking for help with a personal problem, to which you have made not a single addition (helpful or otherwise,) which lends weight to my conviction that you only enjoy stirring things up, and have no real interest in your fellow man.

(I can imagine you sitting there, foaming from the mouth, jabbing a finger at your monitor and hammering on the keyboard! Tell me I am wrong!!!)

:applause: Nice try.

And we can’t enslave people of a different ethnic minority, call them ‘monkeys’ and worse, we can’t lock up people of differing religious views for no reason anymore (although we can still invade their countries), we can no longer act like gods with power over life and death – just like we used to in places like South Africa and Rhodesia 70 years ago.

Please indicate where I’ve said that we should.

Just because these things used to happen, just because such names were used at one time, doesn’t mean that it was right then nor right now.

Just in case your education has been incomplete, do look back to the Latin word for black, and you’ll find that the word, to which so many object, is nothing more than an Anglicised version; are you planning to rewrite the Latin-English dictionary? Webster’s already been that route.

Do you call people that?

Never have, never will, even in response to provocateurs like you (and note that you were the one who introduced it)

The name you refer to was once common, but it is now regarded as offensive by the authorities and by ethnic minorities – explain to me why you think this word is no longer in common usage by decent, considerate people.

It was a common word to describe a particular shade of dye/colour, but its incessant use by the dregs of society, as a means to insult others, has made it unusable. Strange how the “f” word also used to be considered beyond the pale, so much so that I would never consider using it in front of a woman or child, yet the “entertainment” industry’s never-ending use has made it acceptable (though not to me – one example, and off goes the TV.)

It was an observation, and I did ask if it was true..?

And I chose to ignore yet another stir of the wooden spoon, because I can.

If you like. Not sure where it is written, so you’ll have to take it on the fly…

Doesn’t have to be written, since you take it for granted.

You being a rank 5, you mean, and me a lowly 3…

I mean no such thing, because I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

You do not know me, you will not know me and for that I shall be forever thankful.

It’s mutual

Just what exactly are you doing a wonderful job of assuming I was ‘suffering’ from?

I don’t, because I’m not interested; my concerns lie with Jim’s position.

It does seem strange that you are stirring up trouble on this thread by – being a troll – repeatedly dragging Linc’s thread in

Once = “repeatedly?

and calling me selfish in an attempt to get a reaction. If you think that doing so is in any way helping him then you are surely deluded.

Couldn’t care less if you react, and you’ve already admitted you don’t want to help.

Misuse by…who? It is an offensive word: There is now no way on earth that you can incorporate it into a conversation with people you are not familiar with without them drawing conclusions about you for using it. Under those circumstances the only person who be misusing the word would be you. Can you come up with a legitimate use for that word, one that doesn’t cause offense or rouse a moderators ire?

It used to be possible to buy a dye called N—– Brown, and I used that in a conversation with a (black) friend, while we were discussing the dog silliness.

I’m stirring and you aren’t answering a simple question. Guess you might be hiding your feelings by being patronising and not answering…

More assumptions, to which you’re quite welcome, but which only serve to show your ignorance of what I’m really like.

‘Them‘? Good grief. Did you use your special voice for the hard of understanding as well?[/sarcasm]

Is the lowest form of wit.

Maybe you are tired but I have already stated that I was using that to illustrate the changing of language… Do keep up

See response immediately above, and I have no wish to “keep up” with your brand of insolence.

Dregs of society was the term you used, I believe. They come from both high and low social orders – another attempt at illustration of a point that appears to have gone right over your head, I’m afraid.

Sarcasm really does become you.

I do not need you to kowtow, genuflect, whatever. If you want evidence then walk down Brixton high street

I have no need, since the same situation pertains in my home town, so I deleted the rest of your rant, since it doesn’t apply, and I have enough commonsense not to antagonise people just for the sake of it (you should try it sometime.)

Hurrah for you…!

Hurrah for never-ending sarcasm.

But I mentioned it because the offence that the ‘n’ word causes can be just as offensive as the ‘f’ word in the wrong location.

Something of which I’m perfectly aware, so would never use either in public, unless with long-standing friends (which you’ll never be, so don’t keep playing the wind-up game.)

So, again, when would you use that word, with all its offensive and racist baggage, in normal everyday life

So, again, I’ve already told you (and you tell me to try to keep up.)

Before you-know-who comes piling in, accusing me of all sorts, I simply have the ability (being working-class) to understand some of the deep-seated resentment that sometimes surfaces. It’s very easy for those with Oxbridge accents to “see the wider picture” (i.e. what’s in it for them,) but asking a man to kill various nationalities, then, within living memory, telling him that we’re now best buddies, so turn off your hate, can be asking a bit much; as late as 1991, my father was thanking me for never buying a Japanese car, but I never let on that it was simply because their spare parts were too expensive.
You can tell the people, as much as you like, that Europe is absolutely wonderful, but, if they see little sign of that getting into their pockets and improving their lives, you might as well try to shout above the noise of a hurricane, especially when they see their “betters” cheating, lying, and thieving simply because they can. “Don’t do as I do, do as I tell you” gets a very dusty response.
Noel Coward was very popular, with the following:-
“Don’t let’s be beastly to the Germans
When our victory is ultimately won,
It was just those nasty Nazis who persuaded them to fight
And their Beethoven and Bach are really far worse than their bite
Let’s be meek to them
And turn the other cheek to them
And try to bring out their latent sense of fun.
Let’s give them full air parity
And treat the rats with charity,
But don’t let’s be beastly to the Hun.”
Is UKIP the best we can do? Normally, no, it isn’t, but until the other parties start listening, rather than dictating, and give the ordinary folk something to which they can look forward, the party has a future.

Make sure you remove your rose-tinted spectacles.

Don’t own any, in fact they should be yellow-tinted, since I have a jaundiced view of politicians

tell me if politics and politicians were much different 50 years ago.

In 1966, having lived all my life in a leaking, cold “house,” with bucket toilet 50 yards down the garden path, and having had to share a bedroom with my mother for 25 years, our local MP, within a month of my mother seeing him, got the council to offer us a semi-detached 3-bedroom house. I have grave doubts that would happen today, because, since then, I’ve watched the quality of MP steadily deteriorate, so much that, for years, I’ve been unable to choose a party that seems to care about me, and others like me, in the slightest.