Why do you feel it necessary to resort to insult?
And you don’t feel that your inference, that I care more about an unfunny entertainer’s language than Savile’s behaviour, is an insult?
Children have been abused by a serial paedophile and you’re having a problem with the language used by a comedian? You need to have a serious realignment of priorities, not mention the fact that you’ve completely and utterly missed the point about Jerry Sadowitz was saying
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Don’t you dare tell me what my priorites need to be; you have absolutely no idea of how much disgust I feel for Savile, especially as I, too, have worked (in a small way) to raise money for Stoke Mandeville, and now find that some are trying to wrap all of us with the same filthy cloth as him. Yes, it’s true that I missed the point, of that “act,” largely because the only words that came across clearly were the obscenities
Also, you were warned about the language but you clicked anyway and now you’re complaining?
I am complaining about the words being irrelevant to the message; if all I hear is them, the message that he is trying to pass on, has failed to get through. I couldn’t care less about swear words, but preferably in a context that means something, like a thumb struck by a hammer, or a suitable reply to a foul-mouthed Works Manager.
By the way, the best comedians on the planet use swear words. Fact.
The vast majority of the best comedians have left this planet, and had no need to pepper their acts with swear words. Fact.
You have someone being accused of some the worse things adults can do and you’re worried about foul language? Jeez….. I think a sense of perspective is called for here.
Don’t play the clever-Dick card; it’s entirely possible that he might have been taken seriously, if he hadn’t let his foul mouth run away with him. I’ve yet to see a true comedian who needed four-letter words to make his act entertaining.
I’ve spent my life refusing to use foul language in front of women and children, because that’s how I was brought up to behave, and I have no need for lessons from you.
You have someone being accused of some the worse things adults can do and you’re worried about foul language? Jeez….. I think a sense of perspective is called for here.
Don’t play the clever-Dick card; it’s entirely possible that he might have been taken seriously, if he hadn’t let his foul mouth run away with him. I’ve yet to see a true comedian who needed four-letter words to make his act entertaining.
I’ve spent my life refusing to use foul language in front of women and children, because that’s how I was brought up to behave, and I have no need for lessons from you.
1987! Well – and no doubt he was voicing what was common knowledge amongst many people “in the know”. All of which begs the key question in all of this – why was nothing done about it at the time – 25 years ago?
Why? Quite simply because it’s being voiced in an alleged comedy routine, liberally sprinkled with unnecessary foul language, and, if you listen to the audience’s laughter, I’d say that they’re not taking it seriously, having gained the impression that he’s just being abusive against a fellow “celebrity,” whom he views as fair game.
Do we know, for certain, that he was banned for this routine, or was he simply banned because his foul mouth had become tiresome?
1987! Well – and no doubt he was voicing what was common knowledge amongst many people “in the know”. All of which begs the key question in all of this – why was nothing done about it at the time – 25 years ago?
Why? Quite simply because it’s being voiced in an alleged comedy routine, liberally sprinkled with unnecessary foul language, and, if you listen to the audience’s laughter, I’d say that they’re not taking it seriously, having gained the impression that he’s just being abusive against a fellow “celebrity,” whom he views as fair game.
Do we know, for certain, that he was banned for this routine, or was he simply banned because his foul mouth had become tiresome?
I was half expecting a thread about rain…….
I was half expecting a thread about rain…….
According to “Spitfire the History,” AR403 was with 165 Squadron from August 9th. to September 23rd., when it went to 65, finally being destroyed 16-1-43. Whether the codes were recorded always depends on the diligence of the I.O. involved, but “Fighter Squadrons of the RAF & their aircraft,” by John Rawlings, does list some code/serial combinations, so there is a chance.
I visit Kew, regularly, but not before Saturday week; if you can wait (at least) that long, I don’t mind having a look in 65’s ORB during the 45 minutes, or so, that I have to wait for my files to appear.
It isn’t trial by media, it’s character assassination by media, which is the sum total of what passes for a newspaper industry does best these days. All this hysteria has nothing to do with “public interest,” it’s just a means to sell more copy. There are shoals of grubby little muck-rakers, just waiting for a chance to drag someone (more famous than they will ever be) down, and this is a Heaven-sent opportunity for them. I’ve been expecting some sort of backlash against our Olympic medal-winners (they’ve already made a pathetic attempt against Victoria Pendleton,) because the press can’t stand winners, but presumably that can wait for a few more months, now.
By all means bring it out into the open, but, then what? Are we going to dig him up, then do what Charles II’s henchmen did with Oliver Cromwell’s body, and hang, draw and quarter him, and stick his head on a pole?
As for calling for the refund of any money he raised, it needs to be remembered that the money didn’t go to him, and any damage will be done to hospital patients, including recently-disabled servicemen and women.
It isn’t trial by media, it’s character assassination by media, which is the sum total of what passes for a newspaper industry does best these days. All this hysteria has nothing to do with “public interest,” it’s just a means to sell more copy. There are shoals of grubby little muck-rakers, just waiting for a chance to drag someone (more famous than they will ever be) down, and this is a Heaven-sent opportunity for them. I’ve been expecting some sort of backlash against our Olympic medal-winners (they’ve already made a pathetic attempt against Victoria Pendleton,) because the press can’t stand winners, but presumably that can wait for a few more months, now.
By all means bring it out into the open, but, then what? Are we going to dig him up, then do what Charles II’s henchmen did with Oliver Cromwell’s body, and hang, draw and quarter him, and stick his head on a pole?
As for calling for the refund of any money he raised, it needs to be remembered that the money didn’t go to him, and any damage will be done to hospital patients, including recently-disabled servicemen and women.
The policy, at Kew, seems to lean towards ensuring that sensitive material can only be viewed when all concerned (possibly including immediate relatives) are no longer alive.
I was asked to look for a file on Courts Martial, dating around 1945/6, and found that it was closed for 75 years, so couldn’t be seen until around 2021. I can’t remember what they were, now, but I did find references for files, which must be really sensitive, which had a closure time of 150 years.
Should have used a catapult; he already has a hook.
Should have used a catapult; he already has a hook.
Like it, or not (and obviously many, on here, do not,) knowledge of rumours does not equate to knowledge that they’re true. Several agencies are saying that they were aware of accusations, but could find no evidence, and, without evidence, there is no case.
All of this has the nasty smell of the media circus piling in, so that (they hope) it will draw attention away from their reprehensible behaviour in the phone hacking cases.
Like it, or not (and obviously many, on here, do not,) knowledge of rumours does not equate to knowledge that they’re true. Several agencies are saying that they were aware of accusations, but could find no evidence, and, without evidence, there is no case.
All of this has the nasty smell of the media circus piling in, so that (they hope) it will draw attention away from their reprehensible behaviour in the phone hacking cases.