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Edgar Brooks

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  • in reply to: Help me plan a trip #1127434
    Edgar Brooks
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    If you can obtain a copy of Wrecks and Relics that gives a full run down of all UK museums and their contents.

    A new issue is due to be published in May/June this year. It doesn’t have just museums, but includes very small collections, even single airframes.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Supermarine S6 Query #1141125
    Edgar Brooks
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    According to some sources, it was common for the pilot to start his take-off run at right-angles to the eventual line of lift-off.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Question regarding copyright on old photos. #1144065
    Edgar Brooks
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    I did photography, during the 60s & 70s, and the understanding, then, was that copyright remained with the originator/negative, not the print. However, if the work was commissioned (e.g. a wedding) although the copyright remained with the photographer, he could not use the resultant print, without obtaining permission from the originators of the commission.
    Edgar

    in reply to: RAF 5 Group Squadron Codes #1149296
    Edgar Brooks
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    Interesting to see this idea that the word “dull” was dropped throughout the war, when several A.M.O.s (e.g. A.664/42) specified dull red for serials and code letters on day & night bombers, night fighters, ASR, AOP, plus sundry other a/c, while the roundels were just listed as red/white/blue/yellow, and the Keeper of Aircraft and Research Studies, at Hendon, J.M.Bruce, said, in 1976, “Matt Red and Matt blue were used both prior to 1942 and after the war,” which implies that dull shades didn’t start before that date.
    Also, the C.O., of Fighter Command, after the dimensions of the fuselage roundels were changed, by A.664/42, asked if would be possible, on night fighters, to drop the white and yellow rings completely, and proposed that the remaining colours should be Dull; doesn’t sound, from that, that the dull shades were already in use, does it?
    Edgar

    in reply to: RAF 5 Group Squadron Codes #1149529
    Edgar Brooks
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    Diameters:- Dull Red 18″, White 24″, Dull blue 48″, Yellow 54″.
    During the war, colours were simply given numbers “in H.M.G. Aircraft series,” for example Dull Red took over 11A from Matt Red, which seems to be a fine source of confusion. Matt blue was 12 & 12A, so Dull Blue might have become 12A, but I haven’t been able to find out, for sure. Yellow appears to have been 2; white remains a mystery. B.S. appears to be a post-war classification.

    in reply to: Hendon archives access experience? #1153024
    Edgar Brooks
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    I haven’t seen a stand, but it’s perfectly acceptable to take a digital camera into the library, and photograph any document, but I’ve always had to use it hand-held, so risking camera-shake. I haven’t tried to take a tripod, but they might frown at that, since they’re a bit pushed for space.
    The new printer, for their MAC slides, has a very clear screen, and is easy to photograph; the alternative is to actually print the slide, and each A2 print will cost £2, less if you can figure out how to connect it the A3/A4 printer inside.
    If you do use a camera, be aware that the lighting is not the best, and papers tend to take on a nasty yellow cast, especially if they’re getting old.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Info needed on Hawker Typhoon MN247 #1157541
    Edgar Brooks
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    I had a look in the relevant ORBs, at Kew, today, but with no luck, whatsoever. It looks as though, rather than “belonging to” 198 Squadron, all of their Typhoons could have been taken over by 183, as 198 probably just relinquished them. According to the ORB, two days previously, 198 received word that they were to move to Manston, and they went by train; they didn’t fly. Neither Squadron noted the code letters, though, just the serial nos, which doesn’t help at all. Sorry.
    Edgar

    in reply to: RAFM Hendon to charge for parking #1157958
    Edgar Brooks
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    yet another nail in the coffin that is Hendon…penalise the motorist yet again…why not make the car park free and charge £2.50 entrance fee…

    The Hendon management don’t have any say in the matter. Thatcher introduced entrance charges, for museums (whereupon attendances dropped off,) and Herr Blair did away with them. I believe that most London museums are state-owned, therefore state-controlled; Duxford’s set-up is completely different, so they’re free to charge for entry.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Fancy a new job – RAF Museum, Director General #1158750
    Edgar Brooks
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    That’s all very interesting but you have not commented on other posters criticisms of the way the museum is run and how it is presented. It would be useful to hear your views on those aspects.

    Unlikely, because my views are exceedingly subjective, since I visit museums for the purpose of research, not to be entertained, but I do realise that there’s a need to attract the casual visitor, not just the dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast. For that same reason, I don’t believe that I have the right to have a go at other posters’ views, since their requirements are likely to be completely different from mine.
    I don’t like murky areas, but I don’t have to pay the electricity bill. I loathe this modern idea of hanging airframes in mid-air, since I can’t get at them (especially the cockpits,) and that applies to the Science Museum, IWM & Duxford, in equal measure, but I don’t have the job of shoe-horning the exhibits in.
    There used to be a fairly easy availability, at Cosford, but try getting at some of the airframes, now. Spitfire cockpit? “Sorry, radioactive, you know.” I thought that one of the staff was going to have a heart attack, because I dared to lay my dirty hand on “his” aircraft. During a visit to Cosford, a few years ago, I noticed that a particular exhibit was missing an item, and knew that we had enough redundant spares, at work, to make one up. We sent it to the museum, and never received so much as a thank-you.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Fancy a new job – RAF Museum, Director General #1158815
    Edgar Brooks
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    It seems, from these threads, that many are unaware of what happened when the museum was first envisaged. Back in 1976, at a symposium, John Tanner told me that he’d received a solemn promise, from the GLC (and we all know who used to run that organisation,) that the airfield would remain untouched, so the plans were that Hendon would be a live airfield, run on similar lines to Duxford. The GLC reneged on the promise, hence the huge estates that you now see, so the museum has had to (try to) adapt to a completely different system. As for it being far better, if moved to Cosford, it takes me 45 minutes to drive to Hendon, and 2 hours to Cosford, so don’t expect me to agree with that view.
    It would appear, too, that my approach must be completely wrong; whenever I arrange a visit to the museum’s library, the staff are unfailingly helpful, and courteous, with one girl perfectly willing to flog through 66,000 references, in advance of my visit, to look for suitable references.
    As for the “kids” running around the place, try visiting your local supermarket, and you’ll find out-of-control little darlings, over whom you can trip, at a moment’s notice. Also, believe it or not, there is a need for the human body to take in refreshment, during the day, especially liquids, so dispensing with the cafe probably wouldn’t sit too well with the authorities, and have you tried to find somewhere within easy walking distance of the museum? Today’s children are tomorrow’s keepers of our heritage, as well, remember; alienate them, and museums will become ghost towns.
    Edgar

    in reply to: What would an early RAF WW11 Pilot wear when flying #1159428
    Edgar Brooks
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    Most pilots seem to agree that stiff collars and ties were ditched, in favour (if possible) of a silk scarf, to lessen the onset of “fighter pilot’s neck,” or soreness caused by continually swivelling the head to look behind. A mirror wasn’t (officially) fitted to the Spitfire until September 1940, although it seems that pilots tended to raid local car showrooms. Some pilots, whose flying dated from before the war, still flew in the original 1930s-vintage white overalls.
    Edgar

    in reply to: AR213 Grounded for 2009? #1159904
    Edgar Brooks
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    Just been told that, after 40 years, AR213 has left Booker, and will now be based at Duxford. If it’s permanent, it’s the end of an era for High Wycombe.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Spraying Camouflage In WWII #1176661
    Edgar Brooks
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    Is there not a difference between stencil mats, and spray mats?, I can see the logic in using a mat to mark out the various edges, but not to spray up to, these were fighting machines, surely an inch here and there wouldn’t have mattered (unlike now).

    It wasn’t the position of the wavy line that was important; it was that the transition between colours should be as clean a line as possible, with no rough over, or under, spray, since that roughness induced drag.
    The instructions said “approximately” to the drawn pattern, and overlaid the drawings with 1’0″ squares to help with the design, but not to be followed slavishly. It was felt that a small amount of rough spray could be tolerated, hence the 1″ allowance between colours (and a whopping 2″ for the demarcation between upper and lower colours) when freehand painting was inevitable. The only precise measurements were at edges of main items, for instance the green, on the trailing edge of the starboard wing, started 24″ inboard of the aileron, and spread out for 31.25″ onto said aileron. On the port wing the measurements were 50″ and 42.75″.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Spraying Camouflage In WWII #1177326
    Edgar Brooks
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    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u79/EdgarBrooks/scan0001-1.jpg
    I’ve had a drawing, with the same instruction, for some time, and never read it properly. This comes from the drawing (held at Hendon) for the Portuguese Spitfires.
    Edgar

    in reply to: Spraying Camouflage In WWII #1185815
    Edgar Brooks
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    Steve, sorry if I came across as defensive; it’s a subject that has caused me hours of research, after an “expert,” on a modelling forum, went to great lengths to “prove” that the mats didn’t exist, even to saying that sprayers are “proud men,” and would have discarded the mats at the first opportunity. I pointed out that, in wartime Britain, anyone with that attitude would need to be pretty quick on their feet, to avoid the factory gate smashing into their backside as it closed behind them.
    There’s an interesting exhibit, in the Tangmere museum; it’s a German liferaft, and the notice says that it’s only there because it’s made of neoprene, and there’s no matching RAF liferaft because they were made solely out of rubber, and have totally disintegrated. I’ve just retired from working on aircraft instruments, and orders for rubber O-rings have to be kept to a minimum, because CAA rules will only allow them to have a 5-year shelf-life; neoprene has no limiting life.
    Although I’ve not been able to find it, there is supposed to be mention, in an old Ian Huntley article, of how Boulton Paul chamfered the edges of their mats, to allow a faint feathered edge. I have a letter, from the Westland historian, verifying their use of mats, and he says that it included the roundels. However, it would not surprise me if roundels were (or could have been) painted freehand; watch any signwriter in action, and you’ll marvel at the precision, with just a long paintbrush and a padded support stick. Draw a circle, using a pencil on a length of string, and he’d think it was his birthday, it’d be so easy.
    It isn’t generally appreciated that paper was a fairly strategic material, during the war, and, with weekly collections, was continually being recycled (inspection of the brown shade, and fragility, of newspapers/magazines, by 1946, will give a good indication,) so paper masking was not an option. The popular cartoon of sheets of newspaper hanging in the toilet is not a myth; my aunt told of the relief (her word) when toilet paper finally reappeared post-war.
    Edgar

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