How exactly did these engines work – in what ways were they more efficcient than a turbofan?
It’s interesting that both Boeing and Fokker refused to stretch the planes. We’ve debated the merits of a stretched “717-300” before and I still think such a project would be logical.
By contrast, Fokker only produced the shorter F70 which seems to be an odd aircraft to buy you have Regional Jets available to you. I know the F70 predated Regional Jets so I’m not saying it was bad judgement by Fokker, but the lack of a stretched “F130” or whatever was an error in hindsight, I think.
Welcome to the forum Bigred.
Big Top – now there’s an unfortunate name! I bet they got “you lot are clowns” comments all the time!
The aircraft I usually travel on (“benefit” of a small community!) is called Jemima. She is a BAe 146-200 built in 1987 and registered in 1993 as G-MIMA, hence the popular nickname. She’s very uncomfortable and at 16 years old must be on the way out, but I feel a sense of attachment due to all those flights on her.
Yeah sorry GD, sometimes I think we are the only rational ones around here!
What Forgeard said was, that in the event that any other airline (ie. other than AF or BA) ever operated Concorde, Airbus would not support them.
If I told Ford to refuse to supply parts for my Mustang if ever my evil neighbour manages to acquire it, do you think Ford would say “yeah, sure”???
(I don’t have a Mustang by the way!)
Also, the fact that Airbus inherited Concorde from Aerospatiale/BAC is irrelevant. They assumed that particular liability and it remains a liability regardless of whether the aircraft was an “A” series or a product of an Airbus predecessor company.
Don’t you find it odd that Rolls Royce seem perfectly happy to support the Olympus engines, even though it inherited them from SNECMA and Bristol Siddeley?
So what if SIA got a good deal with Boeing by playing Airbus off? That is what all companies do – play hard ball to get the best deal. Sometimes A wins (Easyjet), sometimes B wins (Ryanair). The losers sometimes issue childish press releases (eg. Boeing losing out the A346 with Iberia recently). But Airbus has taken matters to a new level of childishness.
I stand by my assertion that Airbus have it in for SIA/VS.
Concorde indeed IS in the Airbus family, just like the DC-9 or MD-11 are in the Boeing family. Why else do you think they supported the aircraft for AF and BA?
Just because an aircraft is old, does not give the manufactuer the right to refuse to support it. No one else does; only Airbus. Indeed, the reason is not to be “nice” or “kind”. Supporting all aircraft, all the time, is one of the major drivers of high residual prices for all airact that a manufacturer produces.
And if airlines feel Airbus will not support them in the future, that is something that will be considered when they plan their next purchases.
I disagree, Airbus is the bad party.
Airbus have an obligation to support all their aircraft, irrespective of which airlines like or don’t like each other!
They keep on withdrawing that support for political reasons. Am I the only one to see the clear link – first, SIA are targeted, then their associate VS! It is all deeply pathetic and Airbus deserve to loose a really big order from somebody as a result. If I was an airline CEO, I would choose the 737NG now; I would not be prepared to risk Airbus throwing a tantrum in 10 years time and grounding my fleet. Forgeard must go.
The small engine exhaust pipe is long and pointy in a NG.
Singapore Airlines name their types:
B744 = Mega Top
B744F = Mega Ark
B777 = Jubilee
A343 = Celestar
I think Crossair probably coined the phrase “Junbolino” for the 146/Avro RJ as well.
767-400; max passengers 375, max range 10,400km
777-200A; max passengers 440, max range 9,500km
I guess the 764 and 772 are close enough, although the 772ER and 773 are a lot more capable and a baseline 772A has commonality with those types, which the 764 does not.
Both types are new and we are in a very hard time for airlines. Anyway, the 764 has an interesting wing!
I know Delta and Continental operate the 764 – not sure who else chose it.
Hang on a minute, surely it is not possible to apply so much presure on a control surface that it actually breaks?
I though all aircraft had “limiters” and “dampers” to avoid that?
Well the obvious Fokker replacement would be an ERJ-170 or -190 I should have thought. Some routes could probably stand an upgrade to 737 anyway.