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  • in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1151838
    HughT
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    I think you are right.

    What I have done is found a compromise – I have aligned the rear bulkhead and the support bracket for the tailplane with the centre lines as shown – with a few minor adjustments to the dimensions and I believe we have an acceptable solution..

    One question – is there a packing plate below the support bracket for the tailplane?

    in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1151381
    HughT
    Participant

    Thank you.

    Been a crazy night, we had 4 power cuts and each time I was trying to develop this solution and post the questions!

    in reply to: Tiger Moth Oval Tube #1145431
    HughT
    Participant

    Specifically my requirement was the section for the tailplane diagonal strut.

    Unfortunately, primarily due to problems with access to original DH archive material, I have decided to postpone this project in the interim whilst I research alternative data sources.

    Thank you for your interest and assistance.

    in reply to: Tiger Moth Oval Tube #1145369
    HughT
    Participant

    Hugh, if you mean the tailplane support strut its not an oval tube. Its a round tube with a wooden fairing screwed to the rear of it. Well it is on a 82a 🙂

    Yes you are absolutely right!

    A bit of misdirection on my part I’m afraid – my mind is obviously not focused today – I should have said the elevator balance arm!

    The drawing is not clear but I think it is about 1″x0.4″.

    Unfortunately there’s a lot of key information that is barely legible on these drawings which means I have to continuously dart back and forth, cross referencing between the parts and assemblies trying to determine missing information. In this instance I deviated to do some work on the diagonal strut; checking the connection to the fuselage; when I wrote the message!

    Do you have a copy of the Drawings for the 82c that are available on disc?? usually available on ebay at a very reasonable price.

    Yes I have those, sourced copies from 3 places – originally my intent was to cover the DH82A but the first set I bought was actually the DH82C, then someone else was selling a copy stating the DH82A but it turns out it was the same – finally I obtained another copy that had been digitally tidied up – which as it turns out was certainly worthwhile.

    I have so many questions – bottom diag brace on the rudder, leading edge member on the tail fin, eyebolt to the fin post to match the rudder hinge, trim tab on the elevator, the main fin rib dims, main rudder rib offsets, tailwheel size and so on…and thats just the tail!!

    I don’t believe I can finish this project with the information currently available so I have decided to postpone it till a later date.

    in reply to: Tiger Moth Oval Tube #1145325
    HughT
    Participant

    Real Tiger Moths don’t have tailwheels.

    The DH82C does – drawings DHC 1936 and DHC 1937.

    in reply to: The TSR2 Resurrection Project? #1143414
    HughT
    Participant

    I’ll certainly make sure that the tale is mentioned in my TSR2 book if only for sheer amusement!

    I actually found this article quite interesting as well as the development history of the TSR2 and the innovations that made it unique.

    The article in question merely expresses a point of view that unfortunately does not contain any cost assessments to backup any claims of probability and coincidentally neither does the critics!!

    I personally don’t think that including details of this article ‘for sheer amusement’ in your book is warranted or justified.

    If your book is a serious study of the development of the TSR2 and the people associated with it then my advice is stick to the facts.

    in reply to: Tiger Moth Cables Dia? #1142680
    HughT
    Participant

    Update:

    I eventually found exactly what I was looking for.

    For anyone interested this website has a detailed PDF of materials and dimensions, which strangely enough correspond exactly with my Tiger Moth requirements.:

    http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/Images/material%20list.pdf

    in reply to: Aircraft Parts Named After Ship Parts? #1141447
    HughT
    Participant

    Other similar terms used for aircraft : Buttock Lines (BL), Waterlines (WL), Bulkheads (although this only really applies to the early bi-planes) and Stringers.

    Bulb Flats are often used in the aircraft construction and very common in shipbuilding.

    in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1134906
    HughT
    Participant

    Tiger Moth Update

    Thankyou everyone for all your help.

    Thought it may be prudent to upload an illustration and give you some idea of progress to date.

    There is still some detail work to do on this tail assembly before I move onto the fuselage.

    in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1134483
    HughT
    Participant

    Most impressive!

    Certainly looks familiar!

    Thank you very much.

    To date this has probably been one of the most interesting and challenging aircraft projects I have done.

    Your photograph highlights one area that still puzzles me, which I have yet to satisfactorily resolve and that’s the rudder forward diagonal from the 2nd rib to the leading edge.

    According to the information I have this appears to have been removed from the DH82C – yet I see no logical reason why they should do this!!

    I have made some enquiries with various museums that have restored this model to see if they can throw some light on this.

    in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1117644
    HughT
    Participant

    Final Tail Assembly

    This part of the project is now completed – thanks to all. Was getting a bit daunting near the end, building the fixing clips due to the fact that for an ‘as-build’ fit they were actually all different and each one had to be modelled separately.

    The final model also includes the gap fairings, diagonal strut on the elevator, tail wheel, control cable and an adjustment of 1.2mm as a consequence of recent receipt of a parts list that tied down the finished gap between the fin and rudder.

    I have updated my gallery to show the other work done for the rudder bar and exhaust manifold.

    Further work on the fuselage has been postponed until verification of key setting out dimensions…in the interim I will divert to my other project the Curtiss P-40.

    in reply to: DH Tiger Moth Fuselage Enquiry #1117014
    HughT
    Participant

    HughT

    With the level of detail you are going into, can you produce a set of drawings that could be used to build a fuselage (including the various stress calcs).

    cheers

    Hi and thank you for your interest in this project.

    The models; dimensionally; are well within tolerance and accurate beyond the normal requirements for fabrication.

    However to prepare a set of drawings to build a fuselage; I don’t think this would be practical; as I would need access to the original jig drawings, full material specification for the original design and the contemporary equivalents. Then approvals and certifications would also need to be sought.

    These projects are a personal endeavour to develop highly accurate 3d models of various aircraft and where appropriate fully detailed 2d drawings for the purpose of research, accurate model making and as a reference. The final cad models are converted into a 3D format that can be viewed, interrogated, measured and sectioned by anyone utilising current readily available software.

    Anything else beyond this scope is of course possible pending access to critical and verifiable information, which historically has been difficult, so I therefore need to restrict the practical application of this project as noted.

    in reply to: DH82C Info Request #1109963
    HughT
    Participant

    It will be fun if you get your DH82A and DH82C dimensions mixed up! Make sure you know what model of aircraft your dimensions come from.

    I do try to double check everything as I develop the models – cant afford to take anything for granted!

    The set of drawings I am working from are the archived data set for the PT-24 model – essentially the DH82C.

    By the way, I thought you had ditched the Tiger for the P-40?

    I had, but that was only to fill in time while I waited for delivery of the DH82C Parts list – which incidentally was enormously useful. The P40 can only be developed so far as I am awaiting new microfilm material to arrive.

    I am keen to get this Tiger Moth built, but I know full well that problems lie ahead for the main wings and centre section which I am reluctant to tackle at this stage.

    in reply to: DH82C Info Request #1108756
    HughT
    Participant

    Updated Model:

    For reference; attached is the latest model for the undercarriage showing the forward radius rod arms. As you can see these items are floating with the connector brackets somewhere lost in space.

    in reply to: DH82C Info Request #1108515
    HughT
    Participant

    Is’nt the nearest radius rod rotated out of alignement?

    John

    Hi John,

    Yes it is – I have constrained to a point relative to the attachment bracket at the compression cylinder. I have found that the angular degrees quoted on the DH drawings are not very accurate, whereas the dimensions seem to be quite good. I am therefore anticipating that at some stage I may have to adjust the angle of the matching faces once I have established the correct positioning for the forward connectors. Once established the orientation will change accordingly.

    By constraining to a point rather than a surface I retain the necessary degrees of freedom to properly align all the structural members.

    Project Update: Postponed Indefinitely..undertaking further research….thanks to everyone for their help to date.

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