tbyguyTommy, all I wish to say is that you have got to stop watching the media reports. For the most part these people are uneducated about the types of aircraft and the people involved.
I witnessed the event. No, it was not a father and son who were involved.
Those who have suggested a little time off for grieving have spoken wisely.
tbyguyIs it possible to cross runway to parking on the other side of runway as in the picture.
Ok, I guess I misunderstood your question (Maybe I still do).
I thought you were asking if you’d be able to shoot a similar photograph (like the linked one) from what would be the east side of 18/36, and I answered accurately: No.
The runway you can see in the linked photo is 9/27, and Janie answered accurately: Yes, you can access the airport from the north. Basler’s FBO, small airport terminal, and Week’s restoration hangar are all part of the north end of the field.
My apologies for compounding the confusion. :confused:
tbyguy[QUOTE=eurostar builde;1136324]Have been packing my bags this week.
Been looking at Paul C Pics
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5873036&nseq=204o
What time of day was this picture taken, does not look to busy out on the airfield.
Is it possible to cross runway to parking on the other side of runway as in the picture.
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Shadows suggest early afternoon…1-2pm
This photo was most certainly taken while airborne.
No, the public is not permitted to cross the runways. You can drive around to the east side, but locked gates (and extra police during afternoon performances) will prevent you from entering the airport from that side.
tbyguyTherefore my contention is that, on at least one occasion in American history, a protest didn’t put people in jail, it put them in their coffins.
The episode reminds me of at least another in American history: The shooting deaths of American protesters by British troops.
An event on March 5, 1770, is referred to in American history books as “The Boston Massacre”. Assembled British troops claimed self-defense, and yet, several unarmed protesters were killed, including at least one individual–who was a considerable distance away–by a ricocheting bullet.
The similarity goes further: Neither of the protesting groups was doing so peacefully. In Boston, the British troops were facing a steady barrage of rocks and ice chunks. At Kent State, the reason the National Guardsmen were sent was to attempt to calm down several days worth of rioting throughout the community. Police, firefighters, and guardsmen were under repeated attacks–both in the community and on the Kent State campus–by protesters hurling rocks and bottles. The campus ROTC building was hit by arsonists.
Should British troops have opened fire on innocent, rock-throwing demonstrators? Should National Guardsmen have opened fire on innocent, rock-throwing demonstrators? Both groups bearing arms were placed into a very difficult and stressful situation.
My contention is that if you throw objects (or congregate by those who do) at arms-bearing authorities, it is quite probable you may be fired upon.
Massacres? Hardly.
tbyguyTherefore my contention is that, on at least one occasion in American history, a protest didn’t put people in jail, it put them in their coffins.
The episode reminds me of at least another in American history: The shooting deaths of American protesters by British troops.
An event on March 5, 1770, is referred to in American history books as “The Boston Massacre”. Assembled British troops claimed self-defense, and yet, several unarmed protesters were killed, including at least one individual–who was a considerable distance away–by a ricocheting bullet.
The similarity goes further: Neither of the protesting groups was doing so peacefully. In Boston, the British troops were facing a steady barrage of rocks and ice chunks. At Kent State, the reason the National Guardsmen were sent was to attempt to calm down several days worth of rioting throughout the community. Police, firefighters, and guardsmen were under repeated attacks–both in the community and on the Kent State campus–by protesters hurling rocks and bottles. The campus ROTC building was hit by arsonists.
Should British troops have opened fire on innocent, rock-throwing demonstrators? Should National Guardsmen have opened fire on innocent, rock-throwing demonstrators? Both groups bearing arms were placed into a very difficult and stressful situation.
My contention is that if you throw objects (or congregate by those who do) at arms-bearing authorities, it is quite probable you may be fired upon.
Massacres? Hardly.
tbyguyAbsolutely wonderful pic of the P-40 gear up!
What was the extent of the Fw-190’s weekend activity? Engine run? Taxi?
tbyguyNothing against the aircraft, but I can’t see how the P39 and P40 would do anything but detract from the validity of the formation as a ‘Yanks over here’ tribute.
Moggy
Perhaps you could see it better from another perspective: As a tribute also to those Americans who helped build the arsenal for democracy? 😉
tbyguytbyguytbyguyGlacier Girl wasn’t originally going to be here for RIAT, the original schedule had her leaving Duxford the day after Legends to start the return journey to the USA so she could be back in time to attend Oshkosh on July 12th, so, lots of plan changes in the offering maybe….:confused:
Interestingly, there’s nothing at Oshkosh to attend on the 12th. AirVenture doesn’t begin until the 23rd.
Hmmmm…….
tbyguyHere’s the link to the original post:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13988
Waukau Avenue is the east-west street that runs from just south of the museum to the tower. Zack & Jenn Baughman’s home is the first house on the south side of the street. Zack heads up the EAA’s “Timeless Voices in Aviation” program.
This is a relaxing, come-as-you-are event following Thursday’s show. Stop in, grab some food and a cold beverage, and prepare to talk warbirdese Stay as long or short as you like. All that the Baughmans ask is that you let them know now how many to plan for. 🙂
tbyguy2007 AirVenture schedule of presentations and forums.
http://www.airventure.org/forums/
It appears that the mass formations of T-6/SNJ and T-28 will be arriving Monday afternoon, weather permitting.
Discount lunch tip: A local church group operates a food stand located by the bus stop just outside the main entrance. Burgers, brats, and such for a better price.
tbyguyFor those who post/lurk the WIX board, Thursday, July 26th, 5:00 PM until ?? will be the 2nd Annual WIX cookout. Just give Zack B. a headcount and you’re in.
tbyguyGenerally 27/09, but much depends on wind direction and traffic density. Formations of T-6’s and T-28’s will arrive from the NATA formation clinics in Iowa (I haven’t checked which day yet), and they typically arrive with an overhead break and landing on 18/36.
Most warbirds will be parked on the north end. The north end of the warbird area puts you alongside 27/09. You’ll then also be in a decent spot for warbirds taxiing in and out of their display area.
However, B-17(‘s), B-24, Glacier Girl, F7F, Hurricane, and a handful of other warbirds will be displayed at the Aeroshell ramp, closer to airshow center.
Any chance someone will have an airband radio with your group–tower frequency can be a very handy source of info.
I’m typically driving away at 5:00 PM each day, so I can’t help with the end-of-day photo opportunities.
tbyguyHi All
My main reason for going other, than the whole spectacle of the event, is photography so if anybody has any hints and tips that haven’t already been mentioned please feel free to share them, I’m interested in things like where best to be located for landing shots and also where the best positions are whilst the airshow is in progress.
Bye for now
Chris
Chris, I’m really not much of a photographer, but I know OSH is going to pose some special logistical issues for you.
I’m assuming you’d like to shoot from a spot where you can witness all the arrivals. That will be impossible! Wittman Field was designed so that runways 9/27 and 18/36 do not intersect. Aircraft will be arriving using both runways simultaneously. Most aircraft (on most days) will arrive on 9/27, while many of the heavies, military craft, and large formation arrivals will use 18/36. Just accept that you simply won’t be able to photograph every arrival. Such is the enormity of OSH.
Another frustration will be the thousands of spectators. AirVenture is first and foremost a convention. Those attending are able to get up close & personal with display aircraft. This is, of course, a special frustration for photography. The lighting isn’t ideal, but I make it a point to be on the grounds by 7:15 AM to shoot any static aircraft (I’m a warbird nut). By about 8:30 AM it’s nearly impossible to shoot display aircraft without bodies in the way. Such is the enormity of OSH.
You’ll need to feel your way through the daily airshows. Aerobatic routines are aligned with airshow center. I would avoid the north end for photographing warbird passes, as aircraft need to break early to avoid overflying 9/27.
Did this help or confuse? 😀
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