Most importantly, no-one will be shooting at you.
Good grief! You mean the war’s ended? 😮 You’d never guess reading some of the posts on here sometimes 😉
Interesting discussion that a Battle sans armour,guns and radio should perform better !
We are forgetting that it was designed as a light bomber and would quite often have a war load! What would be the point of not fitting her out as a fully equiped WWII Battle? Surely her performance would hardly matter if she was just to do airshow work?
Several reasons. Lighter aircraft will give you better economy, better performance, lower stalling speed, better handling etc etc….
Why on earth would anyone want to rebuild a plane and then cram it full of junk that would make it a pig to fly, and an expensive pig at that.
My dear fellow, I think you’ve got the wrong idea. You want to be starting to think of reasons why you are really not suitable to fly a Battle. In fact, if you give up flying now, your licence may not be current by the time it’s ready to fly. Unless you are desperate to fly an overweight, underpowered, unstable death trap.
Ah, but you’re talking about a Combat spec Battle. This one wont have guns, bombs, ammo, 1940’s radio etc etc… so will be much lighter for a start. Less weight should improve stability.
Mind you, your description of the Battle could easily apply to a number of planes I have flown, so no problem there really! 😀
Long term restoration to airworthy Steve
TT
As all the current Warbird pilots will be too old to fly by then, and I will have bags of experience when its finished, I will be happy to fly the thing for you if you’re short of a pilot?? 😉 PM me or get Adrian to ring me (ok, ok, I wont hold my breath!! 😀 )
I bought my 6 year old Daughter a Pink Camo Flying suit in the US this year!
We must think alike, I got my 7 year old Son a flying suit at Old Warden last year. It wasn’t Pink though!
Also just found him a really nice US style leather look flying jacket at Adams in Ely. Has Mig28(?) andTop Gun stlye patches on it and looks like genuine aged leather (its actually vinyl)…..for £12!! I was so jealous, I wanted one in my size but they only go up to age 10 🙁 Get your Daughter one! :p Here’s a link:
Landing at Southend wasn’t too bad, it was Landing back at Nuthampstead that was the tricky bit…. 😮
At least the Woodman was there to provide appropriate refreshment! 😀 At least,I assume the pub is still there :confused:
Flying suit:
Anything aerobatic
Anything in which it would be easy to lose a pen or something which could easily jam the controls (old stuff)Civvies:
Spamcans!
AJ, I love your simplistic approach. However I now have a major dilema, what do I wear when I fly a Cessna Aerobat? Its both aerobatic and a spam can! :confused: Maybe a flying suit with a tweed jacket over the top? Maybe there is a market for flame retardant flying suits designed to look like the classic jeans/jumper combination 😀 I’m really confused now.
There has been some sort of stigma about flying suits in general aviation for years. Even when I worked at Duxford you were called a “wannabe” or a “poser” if you dared wear a flying suit in anything smaller than a Harvard.
I have to agree with the safety issues raised in the previous posts though. Its common sense to wear something that could give you some protection in the event of a fire, even better if it has built in knee boards, pen holders and zip pockets to stop yer loose change falling out.
Easy one for me. Pitts S2C. More smiles per pound than any plane I can think of. Not a great touring plane but then I have never been a fan of the £100 bacon sarnie club 😉 Flying a sequence trailing smoke is bound to impress the opposite sex (and upset the Wife! 😀 ) and I could take the Boss up and hold some interesting salary talks. I’d also get to wear a funky brightly coloured flying suit and a bone dome with one of those natty tinted visors :p Oh there would be no end to the fun you could have with a Pitts!
I heard that this ‘race’ was banned in the UK, obviously for good reason.. :rolleyes:
That is a really dumb statement to make. That accident could have happened anywhere. Simply two aircraft racing who lost sight of each other on a turn, and sadly collided. Could have happened in Reno or even at the Schneider trophy in the UK last week.
If AERO GP is banned in the UK, I would imagine its got something to do with civilian aircraft carrying and dropping explosive ordinance. The racing they do is no more dangerous than the air races flown in the UK.
This is the one I use…
http://www.z-a-recovery.com/?source=i_r_about
Its freeware, and I was amazed at what it recovered. Stuff I thought I had deleted months ago was all recovered!
They also have a new employee collecting the inflated landing fee’s………..

Funnily enough I was an instructor until moving onwards just recently. I formed the opinion, rightly or wrongly not to put too much trust in what I was told by a new student or PPL I had just met for the first time and reserve opinions on their ability until I had seen them fly. I’m sure that WB has a fair amount of skill having been through RAF training and am not getting at him at all. I believe IMHO that an instructor should demonstrate the differences when someone flies an aircraft for the first time.
Yep, fair points. But WB was also previously a qualified PPL who would have presented his log book for inspection. However, we are talking about differences between aircraft when doing a preflight check
Like WB found, most SEP’s are basically the same whether its a Spitfire or a Cessna. Most GA planes have all the checks on a checklist. Its a simple case of doing each check and ticking it off when done. If you can’t trust a qualified (albeit rusty) PPL, how are you ever going to trust a fresh student with a few hours under his belt?
But going back to the little chat and establishing previous knowledge etc. From reading one sentance on this forum I have formed the opinion that WB’s attitude is spot on. He said“….safe enough to fly my family” That gives me the impression that he is a chap that wont take risks, wont take chances and would ask if he was unsure about something. Add to that the fact he was actually a full licence holder a while back and I can understand why he was allowed to do the checks himself.
You’ll have to take me for a spin! 😮 😀
Are you doing it in the Aerobat?
Yeah, Kilo Foxtrot is the machine in question, which is great as I dont have the hassle or expence of converting to a new type. Its also surprisingly versitile for a little Cessna. I have had aerobatic rides in P51’s, P40’s, a T28 and Chipmunks and the 152 is every bit as entertaining.
One thing that made me smile is on the 1st lesson we did wingovers amongst other things. I mentioned that Mark Hanna had taught me those about 20 years ago in a Pilatus P2 so I was asked to demonstrate one. The one I did was ok but perhaps a bit too aggressive. Ironic as Mark complained that I was not aggressive enough at the time!
Haha….no problem. Trudy is a good un, you’ll be fine with her. I’m doing the aerobatics course with Gavin at the moment, having a blast!
The first thing any good instructor will ask is “Have you flown before?” If the answer is “yes” they will then talk to you to establish what knowledge you have and what sort of person you are. It may appear to be just an informal chat, but in reality they will be building a picture of the type of person they are dealing with….is this person competent, trustworthy and capable or are they trying to sound more experienced than they really are.
I would imagine WB’s instructor (who I know quite well) formed the opinion that he had a good understanding of how to preflight an aircraft, and that he would have the common sense to ask if there was something he was unsure of or couldn’t find. If there was any doubt about his capabilities, his instructor would have done the checks with him.
What do you think of a Tipsy Trainer :rolleyes:
Nice flying, open cockpit and surely a nice classic
Very nice, but finding one would be difficult. I believe the one in Belguim is no longer for sale?