INFINITYIndian Air Force SU-30 multi-role fighter aircraft fly in formation with two F-16s of the Singapore Air Force during joint exercises in Gwalior. — PTI
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INFINITYhere is another source …..
India Leases Russian Nuclear Submarine: Report
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, MOSCOWIndia will receive a Russian nuclear submarine under a 10-year leasing deal that could be valued at tens of millions of dollars annually for Russia, Interfax news agency reported Oct. 21.
“India’s navy will lease a Project 971 nuclear-powered submarine for 10 years,” Interfax said, quoting an unnamed senior Russian defense industry official.
The contract for the deal was signed early this year and the submarine is still under construction at the Amur shipyard in the Far East port of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the report said.
“It is 85 percent completed,” the official said.
Interfax said independent experts believed the leasing contract was worth “as much as tens of millions of dollars per year,” but gave no further details on financing arrangements on the contract.
The report said construction of the submarine would be completed by 2007 after which an Indian crew would be sent to Russia for training aboard the vessel.
In April, Russia handed over to India a frigate, the third and last ship built by Russia for the Indian navy under a one-billion-dollar contract signed in 1997.
India is Russia’s traditional ally in southwest Asia, and the two countries have resumed cooperation in the nuclear power sphere following a visit by President Vladimir Putin to New Delhi in October 2000.
Last January, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov announced that Russia had reached a preliminary agreement to sell India an aircraft carrier along with 28 MiG-29K fighter jets in a deal worth approximately $1.5 billion.
source:http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=464312&C=navwar
Today a report in Times of India refuted the above story…..
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INFINITYMaurice really clean pixs friend…Ahhh What a day!! First great work by ASIA now by u!!!May God bless u!
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INFINITYHave U done with kicking….Now give urself a good pat on ur back for giving me a good collection of photos….!! 🙂
Thanks Buddy for the pix
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INFINITYAhhh….PLA seems to have fallen in love with LCA atlast…:-D
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INFINITYHello! …. r u hearing me? …… KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK and KNOCK 🙂 …. Hello Hello ! …. WAKE UP Dear!!! ….. its 2004 and already 2005 – just 2 more months to go!
K now for some facts that u must have missed during these decades …
India went for US engines COZ ??????…….. coz when the LCA project was visualised or say started theoritically, there was no RD-33 who had operational background and was entering service with the new MiG-29s and any logical developers woud have liked to use an engine proven or which have already entered service for testing their new fighter. And there was this 404, which also came in coz of the Regan smile during the 80’s coz of the political ‘closeness’ India jumped into many projects with the US and F-404 was one among them is my strong contention alsong with a need for a tested medium sized engine which was F-404.
Who told u LCA was builf on the same lines of F-16, can u elaborate it
the whole code was written coz the engine that was to power in the initial phase of test was the F-404, u cant write code keeping in minf Kaveri as the operational one and use F-404 on the machine for flight testing, I’d say it would be better to do tests with Shumy rather than up in the air.
And i don think reqriting codes is a major task , if thats it then do u thik that a cade has already been written for Kaveri powered LCA???
amd if I am not wrong the kaveri, RD-33, F-404 all are in the same league in size though some varationa might be there.
Have some fresh air and Open UR mind Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide as possible BlackCAT(Seems Difficult!?)
Are HAL scientists foolish to go in for GE 404,when RD33 was available?
India just did not say yes to untrusted American Cooperation(in early days) just to make Americans happy,when Russian help was easily available!!!!
Had been so simple to change an aircraft engine India would have done it long ago!!!
And Now answer this:
Even when America applied sanctions,Never ever RD33 popped up as probable engine for LCA!
Why would India go in for expensive and unreliable (in terms of Availaibility due to US attitude not performance vise) Engine !?
Yup! RD33 Has improved .And I already said that to Alezx.Even IAF ACM agreed to it while reffering to MiG29M
as …..”New Aircraft is wonderfull,new aircraft supports less smoky Engine,better fuel efficiency……………….”
“amd if I am not wrong the kaveri, RD-33, F-404 all are in the same league in size though some varationa might be there.”
Blackcat adjusting to those some variations also requires mooore time…… Something India surely now lacks of !!!
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INFINITYN,joy!!
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INFINITYNo no no!!!
You can’t choose the right one! And why not
you asked??? Because, it’s too damn F-22ish! Only ChiComs are
suppose to copy to the same/exact likeness. :p:p
wOw!! Now we Have Copyright for Copying too!! 😉 :diablo:
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INFINITYI dont about Black One ! But I like its Cute Dolphine like Front 🙂
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INFINITYFrancis, then please translate the article so we can all read it’s subjectivity.
Arthur He’s just saying PLA same words which PLA said to him in IAF thread
when Francis provided an American News Article!!
I mean rules apply to all!!Ain’t it 😉
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INFINITYhttp://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041016/cth1.htm#4
HAL begins flight trials of two indigenous Su-30s
Vijay Mohan
Tribune News Service
Chandigarh, October 15
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has started flight trials of the first two Sukhoi-30 frontline combat aircraft to be assembled indigenously and expects to deliver these aircraft to the IAF in this financial year.
“The first aircraft to be assembled in the country was test flown on October 1, with the second aircraft following suit a few days later,” HAL Managing Director K.P. Puri told The Tribune here today.
The Su-30s being assembled by HAL were of the MKI series, which were upgraded versions of the Su-30s delivered to the IAF earlier by Russia. The earlier aircraft would also be upgraded to the MKI version, which were specially tailored to meet the IAF requirements. Over the past three years, HAL had been putting the required infrastructure in place.
Six Su-30s would be assembled over a 15-month period starting from the next financial year, with a subsequent increase in the annual production, Mr Puri said. Production would peak at 12 aircraft per year, which was expected to continue up to 2017. About 140 Su-30s would be licence-manufactured by HAL.
Another major project under way at HAL was the production of 37 Jaguar interdictor aircraft, which would add to the IAF’s strike capability. These were of the upgraded version, which incorporated a glass cockpit and a digital navigation and attack suite. HAL was also upgrading the IAF’s existing Jaguar fleet.
HAL had also handed over two upgraded versions of MiG-27 close support aircraft to the IAF for trials and requisite feedback before work on the upgradation of the fleet was taken up. The upgraded aircraft were being evaluated for various flight and combat parameters. About three squadrons were to be upgraded initially with work expected to commence next year.
Mr Puri disclosed that the entire work on MiG-27, which involved integrating an advanced navigation and attack suite and upgradation of avionics, had been done indigenously by HAL in collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation.
HAL was also tapping the export market for the Dhruv advanced light helicopter and was exploring the possibility to sell these to Chile, the United Arab Emirates and some African countries. It had already sold two Dhruvs to Nepal and had sent four choppers on a 25-day trial stint to Chile, whose requirements were projected for 10 choppers. A high-level HAL-IAF team left for Chile two days ago in this regard.
It had delivered 31 Dhruvs to the Indian armed forces, who had projected a requirement for 300 choppers in this class. With one Dhruv costing about Rs 30 crore, HAL hoped to rake in about Rs 9,000 crore from the defence establishment over a period of time.
Mr Puri said while there was a tremendous civilian market for Dhruv within the country, it had not been fully explored as yet, though the chopper was certified for civilian use last year. Central government establishments, state governments, security agencies and private industry offered a sizable market for Dhruv, two of which had already been procured by the Jharkhand government.
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INFINITYA question for Indian members, does anyone know the relations between the Indian and Vietnamese air forces?
Earlier this year, I found an article saying that Vietnam have signed a deal with HAL for the upgrade of MiG-21s, plus, India also offered help in training Vietnamese personnel at Indian Institutes, so I wondering how these developments have gone so far.
I only found an article Indo Vietnam Defence cooperation agreement signed in Year 2000
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20000329/world.htm#1
India-Vietnam defence pact
HANOI, March 28 (PTI) — India and Vietnam today signed a wide ranging defence agreement paving the way for greater military-to-military cooperation, sale of advanced military light helicopters, assistance in repairs and overhaul of Hanoi’s mainstay MiG fighters and raising the level of military contacts between the two countries.
The defence cooperation agreement signed at the conclusion of the visit of the Defence Minister George Fernandes to the Vietnamese capital also provides a framework for periodical talks between the Defence Ministers of the two countries and cooperation between the Indian Coast Guard and the Vietnamese sea-police in combating the growing menace of piracy in the Eastern seas.
After the agreement was signed by senior officials of the two countries in the presence of Mr Fernandes and his Vietnamese counterpart Gen Pham Van Tra, the Defence Minister described it as “most significant”.
“Through this agreement we have sought to raise defence contacts between the two countries to a much higher and larger plane,” Mr Fernandes told newsmen adding that under the new pact, India would also assist Vietnam in the repair and upgradation and building of warships and fast patrol crafts as well as training of technical personnel of the Vietnamese navy, sea police and air force pilots and technicians.
Mr Fernandes, who leaves tomorrow morning for Ho Chi Minh city wound up his visit to Hanoi with a “warm’’ meeting with the Vietnamese President Tran Duc Luong during which the latter commented that Vietnam and India should continue to support each other in all regional and international fora.
Under the new pact, Vietnam has offered to admit Indian armed forces personnel for training in the field of jungle warfare and to get this project underway speedily, the Vietnamese army has offered training in their language to Indian officers selected for the warfare course.
With the proposed sale of the multi-role advanced light helicopters, Vietnam would be the second major foreign buyer of the HAL, which is yet to enter service with the Indian Air Force or the aviation wing of the Army.
Though no numbers were specified, Mr Fernandes said this would depend on the requirements and availability of resources with the Vietnamese.
He said the Vietnamese, who almost use 100 per cent erstwhile Soviet Union weaponry, had also agreed to study the catalogue of the Ordinance Factory Board and explore possibilities of using the products and services being provided by India’s defence manufacturing industries.
The pact paves the way for the visit of Indian naval ships to Vietnamese ports and participation by the Vietnamese navy in the international fleet review being held in India in February, 2001. India has also agreed to assist Vietnam in the process of setting up its defence industry and also opened its doors to the research done by the DRDO.
This article contains Info upto year 2004
Defence Cooperation with Vietnam
> An MOU on Defence Cooperation between India and Vietnam was signed in September, 1994 during the then PM’s visit to Vietnam.
> Vice-Chief of Army Staff Lt. General Surinder Nath visited Vietnam in November, 1994. A high level defence delegation headed by Vietnamese Vice Minister of Defence and Chief of General Staff, General Dai Dinh Luyen visited India from 03-11 May 1995. Admiral V.S. Shekhawat, Chief of Naval Staff visited Vietnam from 13-16 May, 1996. Chief of Army Staff visited Vietnam from 23-28 Feb. 1999. Vice Admiral Mai Xuan Vinh, Commander of Vietnamese Navy visited India from 5-11 September 1999. Discussions were held for possible cooperation in ship repairs, ship constructions, hydrography and other areas. Three Indian Naval Ships – INS Rajput, INS Delhi and INS Khanjar paid a Goodwill Visit to Vietnam from 1-4 October 1998. Indian Coast Guard Ship, “CGS SANGRAM” paid a goodwill visit to Ho Chi Minh City from June 7-9, 2001 and again from September 29-1 October 2003. INS Magar also paid a goodwill visit to Ho Chi Minh City from 9-13 December, 2003.
> Indian Defence Minister paid a successful visit to Vietnam from March 27-30, 2000.
> A delegation led by Sr. Lt. Gen Nguyen Huy Hieu, Vice Defence Minister of Vietnam visited India from November 12-17, 2003 bilateral discussions.
> Admiral Madhvendra Singh, Chairman of Chiefs of Staff Committee and Chief of the Naval Staff visited Vietnam from December 17-21, 2003 on an official goodwill visit.
> Senior Lt. Gen. Phung Quang Thanh, Vice Minister of Defence and Chief of General Staff of Vietnam People’s Army made a goodwill visit to India from March 3-5, 2004.
> A 15-member delegation from the National Defence College (NDC 44) led by Air Vice Marshal A.K. Tiwary visited Vietnam from 16-22 May, 2004. The team also included three foreign officers from UK, UAE and Singapore. They visited Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City and held discussions with various defence authorities in Vietnam.
One More Links
http://www.saag.org/papers2/paper177.htm
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INFINITYHey Hey Hey!!!!
They’re not only good in PS’s :p :p :p !!! In fact, they had proven
beyond a doubt that they have the ability to accomplish great feats and achievements with
friendly neighbours in joint science and technological advancements.What science and technological feats and advancements??? To put it
as less hash as possible: let’s simply call it “eat your hearts out feats and achievements”
or, what some here would term as “Chin*s* p*@#s *nvy” :p :p :p…
:p
Hmmmmm…….
Yes they were successfull in showing world “How to recycle MiG21 in several hundred ways” 😀 😀
Yes!They have Great Cooperation with friendly NieghBours,Some of the technical cooperation can be Described as “Copied in China,Scrapped in China,Scrap bought by Nieghbours and repainted in their own Colors” :p
PS:Nobody hates China Its fun to have aggressive competitor,rather than wailing neighbours!That comment was a positive remark,not a pun!Its always good to Imagine(I mean PS work :p ) and then implement!!
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INFINITYHmmm Vympel never expected that kind of response!?:-(…..Yours,Harry’s,google’s articles were great source of knowledge….and added a lot to my collection.
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INFINITYSpecific Fuel Consumption
It is time you finally give up the BS about abnormal fuel consumption of the RD-33. The engine is a stinky normal mediocre turbofan which fits in any category, just like anything else. Some basic fuel consumption rates show that there aren’t any real differences between the 33 and its counterparts. I am already fed up with this nonsense everyone is spreading without basic knowledge of the topic..
RD-33
2.1 kg/kgf/Hr in full augment mode (8300 kgf) and 0.77 kg/kgf/Hr in maximum dry mode (5040 kgf).F404-GE-400
1.85 kg/kgf/Hr in full augment mode and 0.79 kg/kgf/Hr in max. dry modeF110-GE-100
2.06 kg/kgf/Hr (kg/daN/h) in full augment mode and 0.79 in max. dry modeSNECMA M53-P2
2.1 kg/kgf/Hr in full augment mode and 0.90 kg/kgf/Hr in maximum dry mode
Alex Cool Buddy!!! I was just trying to nail into PLA”s head that u cant simply change some aircrafts planned Engine with any other new Engine…..
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