C-47 photos
Wieesso & Newforest – very many thanks for your help! It’s very much appreciated.
Rich
Swinderby Mosquito
I remember seeing this Mossie sat in one of the main hangars while I was at Swinderby undergoing basic training in September / October 1986. We used to run past it most days & it was clearly visible as the hangar doors were usually wide open. It appeared to be in excellent condition & had the access ladder attached. I often thought of nipping across from my block & taking a closer look, but excessive cleaning & boot bulling always got in the way!
Rich
Ah, I see. You were there when it was all running down then, in the days when the whole Cold War thing was all but over. Seems you missed all the ‘tension & action’ or you would have included Geilers. Never mind, maybe you can get to play in the next one. :rolleyes:
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I was at Gutersloh 1988-91. Sure, the soviets weren’t rattling their sabres quite as loudly, but we were still training as if they were (endless tacevals & weeks spent under canvas as the Harriers & helicopters played on the German backroads). And things were a “little tense” as the Warsaw Pact broke up & the soviet political machine went into meltdown.
As I recall, we did manage to fit in a little war & a large slice of RAFG deployed to to where bullets & not threats were being exchanged.
My most enduring memory, however, is the steps we (& our families) were forced to take in order to disguise ourselves as locals (not easy with the german fashions & haircuts of the day) or tourists in order to outwit the IRA cells operating in Germany. Lets not forget that a number of RAF personel were murdered by these scum. The enemy was all around & not just in the east!
Rich
My wish list consists of set of C-47 / Dakota pilot & co-pilot seats (the unusual looking inward slanting type). I’m sure that there are dozens of the things languishing in derelict airframes throughout the world, I just can’t get my hands on them!
Any leads greatly appreciated…….!
Luckily, the history of the airframe is pretty well documented. It was one of the many redundant ex-Spanish air Force C-47’s retired in the late 70’s. It went to Air Klassik in Germany (still airworthy) in 1979 & ended up on static display in a museum in Germany (where most websites say it still is!) A few years ago it was dismantled for use in an aviation themed cinema in Munich. The cockpit became the ticket booth.
The cinema closed quite recently (2004/2005) & in due course the cockpit came to me.
Going back to the beginning of it’s service, it was allocated to 511 Sqn at Lyneham (with whom it apparantly served until late 1945). I’ve been unable to uncover much information about this unit or FL517 during it’s time with them. If anyone has any information about either, it would be gratefully received!
Beechcraft D.18s G-BKRN (philipturland and Texantomcat)
BAC Lightning 53-671/ZF579 (mjr)
Blackburn Buccaneer S.2B XX889 (Buccsociety)
Boeing B-17 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
Boeing B-17 Radio room-reproduction (B-17man)
Consolidated B-24 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
de Havilland Chipmunk composite (Stuart Gowans)
de Havilland Hornet F.MK.1 Cockpit/Forward fuselage – reproduction (dcollins103)
de Havilland Vampire FB.MK.5 Cockpit – VZ193 (dcollins103)
de Havilland Vampire T. Mk 11 XD599 (philipturland and Texantomcat)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 XE985 pod (MarkG)
de Havilland Vampire T. Mk 11 XH313 (Vampire)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 XH328 (Bruce)
Douglas C-47A Skytrain / Dakota 111 FL517 nose/cockpit (c-47 Skytrain)
English Electric Canberra PR.9 Nose/cockpit XH175 (RossMcNeill)
English Electric/BAC Lightning F.3 XP706 (Scott C)
Handley Page Halifax B Mk III cockpit reproduction (HP57)
Hawker Sea hawk F1 WF145 (Stuart Gowans)
Hawker Hurricane (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F1 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F2 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F6 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter T7 XL591 (mjr)
Hawker Hunter FGA.78 QA12 nose/cockpit (MarkG)
Hawker Sea Hawk FGA.6 WV838 (wv838)
Hawker Typhoon Cockpit (Rocketeer)
Miles Messenger M.2a G-AKIN (texantomcat)
North American AT-6-D-1-NT Texan G-TOMC (Texantomcat and philipturland)
Supermarine Spitfire IX (Stuart Gowans)
Supermarine Spitfire Cockpit (Rocketeer)
Supermarine Swift F7 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
English Electric Canberra T4 WT486 nose/cockpit (sniperUK,2241sq ATC
My contribution!
Many thanks to all who have delved into their books for me, I really appreciate your efforts. I’m afraid that I don’t have much more detail to add.
Tha last owner told me (anecdotally) that the aircraft served with AAF Air Transport Command, though at this time I’ve got no evidence to support this. I’m assuming that it operated for quite some time in Spain as some of the placards have a spanish language translation fitted or painted alongside and some spanish manufactured parts fitted (hoses, etc). As to where in Germany it languished as a ticket booth, I’m afraid that I don’t know. I’d imagine that it would have been a bit of a “one off” though!
As to how I obtained it, well after the Cimema closed a year ago it was sold to a chap inn Austria who had plans to restore it. He didn’t have the time to do so, so sold it to me. If I receive any further details from him, I’ll post them here.
As I said, the cockpit is stripped but sound. There is no corrosion that I can find, but there is still much work to do. I’d call it a long, long term project!