Its like a ‘ driver ‘ (software ) that acts as a bridge between the weapon and the platform.
So I guess it might take a new datalink hardware for some weapons.
Does it work over TCP/IP?
Is the UAI going to be integrated to surface to surface weapons? One can imagine an aircraft or UAV guiding a surface to surface missile with it.
Absolutely. When I first heard about UAI, my first thought was astonishment that it hadn’t been done before. Failing to develop it earlier was almost criminal stupidity & negligence, IMO. As you say, it’s a no-brainer. I’d have imposed it as a requirement for all new weapons & anything that could fire them as soon as software interfaces made it practical.
That sounds logical indeed. Also, I don’t know exactly how the UAI works, but the hardware should be standard too. No need to develop a new datalink hardware for each missile and each aircraft.
see the entire hearing even if its painful, the answers are coming
I have already seen presentations like that, the arguments from the skeptics are always the same. Sorry but I have no time to waste.
11 new dance flies just in Lapland; http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2014/11/21/11804/11-new-species-of-dance-flies-discovered-in-Lapland
Finland had recently 456th new bird from USA ( The American Golden Plover ) landed here ( 30 km from my house ); http://www.goodnewsfinland.com/archive/news/new-bird-species-landed-in-hailuoto/
Looks like they are invasive species, they might have important impacts on the ecosystems in the long term.
Frankly that kind of standard software interface sounds like a no brainer. One has to wonder why such an interface has not existed for a long time.
As said before, integrating a weapon is not just a software interface issue, in particular for internal bays, so saying that the F-35 weapons integration can be accelerated at will is simplistic.
I think this is the most dangerous thing..cause the oceans produce the most oxygen as well. Messing up that system will end “the life as we know it”. Otherwise I agree with obligatorys link…this system is so complicated to understand that both ways denying is possible. Trees need CO2 to grow !
Winters in USA are colder says dr. Don Easterbrook..is this also part of the “global warming” ? It is not actually normal is it…8.7 degs colder ?
There was a study in Finland 2003-2007 and they found 1400 new species prior unknown in Finland….and 200 totally new species or organic life forms ! http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/artikkeli/suomen-metsista-on-loytynyt-satoja-uusia-eliolajeja/1964786 …this may be due to global warming.
Climate science in detail is very complex, but the basis is simply that GHGs warm the planet, which has been known for over 150 years. If the Earth had no GHG, its surface temperature would be 33 deg C colder than it is. Stating that increasing the GHGs would increase the temperature is not a farfetched claim, it is actually the contrary that would be surprising.
The vast majority of climate scientists think that AGW is really happening. You have to be carefull with other types of scientists. Science is very compartmentalized, the opinion of say a geologist on climatology doesn’t mean much.
As for the colder winters in the US, as I said before, this might be due to the change in the jet steam. Watch the video I posted before with Jenifer Francis. Her work is talken more and more seriously by scientists. There are other videos or articles about her work that you can watch to better understand. Besically, it is colder in the US in the winter and at the same time it is warmer in the arctic. You cannot isolate just one country, you have to get the whole picture, this is also a classic tactic of climate skeptics.
I couldn’t read your article because I don’t read finnish, but yes the planet is warming and species are moving north. This is happening in many places.
i cant get ‘global warming’ agenda pushed without response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI
I just had to watch until 2:50 where he goes through his main arguments to see that it is a load of BS.
See again, as I said before that he takes 1998 as the first year to state that the planet has not warmed. This is a common tactic by skeptics. 1998 was a very hot year because of a very strong el nino. He also says that CO2 cannot cause global warming, which is of course completely nonsensical.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2014-officially-hottest-year-on-record/
http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/10-warmest-years-globally
A scientist changes his mind on anthropogenic GW after extensive research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sme8WQ4Wb5w
Better late than never.
I love it, first post where you have to confront facts and you start crying about resources. Face the facts kid, the F-35 will be operational earlier in its life than the Rafale with almost every major capability.
From day-1 the F-35 will have an all weather (JDAM) and moving target (GBU-12) capability. It will have a working targeting pod/laser designator. These are capabilities the Rafale didn’t achieve until 2009, necessitating embarrassing deployments of Rafales in which they had to relying on earlier jets to accomplish the most basic of strike missions.
‘crying about ressources’? The rafale has received a funding that was far less than the F-35, maybe around 1/5 to 1/4. Don’t you think, maybe, that the introduction of guided a/g weapons would have happened faster with more ressources? Or said differently, don’t you think, maybe, that if you cut the ressources of the F-35 by half or more you’d get the same capabilities at a later time?
This tactic of comparing apples and oranges to make the F-35 look not as bad is pathetic. The rafale has had little TECHNICAL development problems. It has been delayed because funding has decreased at some times, that’s it. The F-35 has been a nightmare to develop.
I say again, the air to air capabilities of the rafale was extremely important for the first variant because it was replacing the crusader, which was a pure fighter with no a/g capabilities. The F-35 on another hand will replace aircraft that carry PGMs, so it is no wonder that you have to equal that capability.
Btw, it’s not that I hate the plane, I see some value to it, but I can’t believe all the problems that it’s had, and how slowly it is maturing. They are still at what 60% of the flight test, after all those years, I mean, WTF?
I agree…I read the global warming is not as fast as predicted due to several reasons. One is that there is lotsa cool water in the oceans ( deep deep ) and that sorta works as a cooler and when this cooler’s capacity has been used a more rapid change can/may/shall take place.
Here is NASA specialist talking; https://curiosity.com/playlists/what-happens-if-the-polar-ice-caps-melt-lXZUv90b/nasa-climate-change-and-polar-ice-are-we-waking-sleeping-giants-hd-the-mars-underground/?ref=pl
Growing more trees is a good thing. Vancouver might be a place to get palm trees growing.
Growing more trees is promoted as a way of absorbing carbon from the atmosphere. The UN has started programs to replant billions of trees around the planet. As for planting palm trees in Vancouver, the weather is mild there but probably not warm enough. You might have to wait a several decades.
The video is interesting, though a bit old. Since 2007 the sea ice has continued its decline. 2012 was a record year, but there has been some ice increase in 2013 and 2014.
You can find charts with the sea ice coverage on several web sites. Here’s one for instance:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
Notice that we are already very low. You can click on the years you want to see or on ‘show all’. If you click on show all, you can see that we are pretty much at a record low for that time of year.
The oceans absorbs 90% of the energy, so they are warming significantly more than the atmosphere. A recent study showed that the oceans have absorbed more heat than what we thought.
http://tcktcktck.org/2014/10/study-finds-oceans-warming-faster-expected/64670
The pacific might have a significant effect on the overall temperatures:
http://www.livescience.com/49967-pacific-ocean-global-warming-pause.html
The planet has warmed somewhat in the past 15 years. It depends if you want to take 1998 as the starting year, because 1998 was a very strong el nino. Climate skeptics often use 1998 as a starting year to say that the planet diden’t warm.
The arctic warms around 3 times faster than the average for a variety of reasons ( several feedbacks involved, also the fact that the all the pollution from the developping word, like China, emits particulates that reflect light, and those particulates don’t go in the arctic ).
One effect of this ‘arctic amplifiaction’ effect is the disturbance of the jet Stream, which causes extreme colds in some places and extreme heat in the arctic at the same time ( sometimes 15-20 deg C higher than normal in some parts of the arctic and 20 deg C colder in the eastern US for instance). So the loss of arctic sea ice will have important effects on our climate, maybe on yields, etc…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAiA-_iQjdU
Palm trees in England is a bit surprising.
The Greenland ice cap is melting more rapidly than expected. What happens is that the water enters the ice sheet through holes and cracks the ice from below. This phenomenon has surprised scientists.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/15/greenland-ice-melt-underestimated-study-says
As the sea ice disappears around Greenland in the coming years and decades ( in september first, then the window of ice free arctic ocean will increase ), this will warm the area above Greenland significantly, and the ice sheet will melt faster.
As for the antarctic, the ice cover has been increasing in the eastern part somewhat because of more precipitations, but scientists are concerned about the stability of the western ice sheet. If it desintegrates, it could increase sea very significantly.
http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/2014/05/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapsing/
We have to be carefull with the models, they might be too optimistic. As I said, it turned out that the models that had been used to predict arctic sea ice decline were completely wrong, as well as the models used to describe the greenland ice sheet melting.
Wow, you so much as turn you back on this thread for a minute and people will dump an entire page worth of posts into it consisting almost entirely of idiocy.
The “Omnirole” Rafale went operational in 2001. At the time it was armed with… Mica and Magic missiles, no strike capability.
It wasn’t until 2006 (+5 years) that the Rafale F2 entered service with a very limited strike capability. (LGB employment, but no targeting pod/self designation capability)
In 2008 (+7 years) AASM is declared operational on the Rafale, though in GPS guidance mode only and still no targeting pod.
In 2009 (+8 years) The Rafale finally received the ability to self designate a LGB.
In 2014 (+13 years) The Rafale became operational with the laser guided AASM.
As of today (+14 years) the Rafale has AASM, LGBs, Mica, SCALP, Exocet, and ASMP-A.
In comparison the F-35 will reach IOC this year with internal AMRAAM, JDAM, and GBU-12. (and a working targeting pod/self designation capability)
In ~2019 (+4 years) with Block IIIF the F-35 will gain AIM-9x, JSOW, SDB-I, ASRAAM, 4 x internal AMRAAM and more LGB and JDAM variants/external carriage.
In ~2022 (+7 years) with Block 4 software the F-35 will gain the NSM, SDB-II, and an as yet unnamed list of other weapons.
We don’t even need to bother with Eurofighter in this comparison.
Starting to get it yet? :stupid:
At any equivalent point the F-35 is significantly ahead of the Rafale. The F-35 will receive its block 4 software earlier than the Rafale received a self designation capability. :rolleyes:
The rafale became operational in 2004, F-35 fanboy doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that. F-35 fanboy doesn’t seem to grasp the difference of invesment between the 2 programs, and also the fact that the air to air capabilities of the rafale was deemed of paramount important for the first version.
Whereas the F-35 was meant to have strike capabilities from the start. And also to complement the F-22 in the air to air role because its number had been significantly reduced.
Tell me, you still don’t get it, do you?
So you’ve know for ‘quite some time’ that the SDB II is a Block 4 weapon, but you kept the outrage bottled up so far… until it simply burst out in March 2015?
huh what?
There’s only one logical reason for thinking that 2 Aim-120Cs are insufficient until 2018, and that is if you’re deluded enough to think that the aircraft will be deployed in combat before that, which isn’t surprising given that you think the Aim-120D will be an old missile by 2022 (as opposed to all the ‘new missiles’ being delivered before that).
So the F-35 will not be deployed before 2018 now? Your arguments only get better. 🙂
And a 10 year old missile will of course be new in the mindset of the fanboy. Quite funny.
And yet you blow hot air anyway.
I blow hot air on the fanboy…
Most rational people would define 16 SDB IIs between two F-35s as a ‘lot of smart bombs’. You apparently subscribe to some different metric.
Since you haven’t figured it out yet, air campaigns typically start out with a focus on securing the air space against both air and ground based threats not by dodging SAMs to hit trucks and technicals. And with hundreds of other fighters still available there’s no operational urgency to have the F-35 perform BAI (instead of strike and SEAD/DEAD) in a unsanitized environment before 2022.
100% of serving JTACs never had to worry about the enemy’s air force or air defences.
Well, the F-35s will NOT have the 16 SDB IIs, so I really Wonder where that comment comes from.
If there is no problem with enemy defenses after a few days of operation, why would they even bother with integrating the SDBII internally?
The JTACs have been in combat and know very well, much better than you incindently, how CAS works and the relative capabilities of the planes, fanboy.
If the USAF was worried about some ‘much more difficult scenario’ that’s likely to come up before 2022, it would direct the program office to move up the SDB II integration. No ‘normal’ person is worried about 500 USAF F-16s being lost in combat before 2022.
Of course they could accelerate anything on the F-35… fanboyism in its purest form.
How many planes have been lost in vietnam again? Did they see the vietnam fiasco coming?
The Eurofighter is very much a multirole aircraft (it too can hit six targets in a single pass). And whining about budgets doesn’t change the fact that the Europeans have the option of immediate integration of the Meteor on the EF & Rafale and have still opted not to. Apparently they haven’t heard about the Third World War being scheduled to break out in 2020.
Ridiculous. European countries don’t claim to be superpowers and are not preparing their armies for a potential large scale conflict with China or Russia. The US military is built for that.
A high intensity conflict will start with the targeting of enemy air defences, air bases and command and control nodes. Once the air space is secure, the F-15E will able to employ SDB II without any assistance from the F-35. As for what I was ‘basically saying’, the Eurocanards operating even in a low intensity conflict, required hand-holding by older jets. If their operators could live with it and felt no urgency to upgrade aircraft ahead of schedule, the F-35 operators can do the same without the sky coming down.
That’s wishfull thinking. It would be very hard to eliminate the enemy mobile radars and SAMs. Good luck with your F-15Es.
The strike role is very important for the F-35, don’t compare it to a typhoon or the first variant of the rafale. The Charles de Gaulle protected by crusaders would have looked more like an aviation museum than a combat ship.
And the F-35 operators will do what they can with this boondoggle of a program.
Which would be the FOC unless you’re suggesting the Rafales delivered between 2000 and 2004 were simply mothballed.
They were not mothballed at all, they were used for training. The first squadron became operational in june 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale
In December 2000, the French Naval Aviation (Aéronavale), the air arm of the French Navy, received its first two Rafale M fighters. On 18 May the following year, the squadron Flottille 12F, which had previously operated the F-8 Crusader, became the first squadron to operate the Rafale after it was officially re-activated prior to the delivery of the sixth Rafale.[98] Flottille 12F immediately participated in Trident d’Or aboard the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle with warships from ten other nations. During the maritime exercise, the Navy tested the Rafale’s avionics during simulated interceptions with various foreign aircraft, in addition to carrier take-offs and landings.[98][99] After almost four years of training, the Rafale M was declared operational with the French Navy in June 2004.[100]
The limiting factor was the Damocles which became operational in 2011.
The rafale can use its radar and electronic warfare suite to find target coordinates.
The oh-so-old JSOW can destroy aircraft shelters and radar sites with a BROACH warhead from considerably longer ranges at a similar cost. The JSOW-ER will be able to do so from hugely longer ranges, with the SDB still available as a low cost alternative.
The basic JSOW is not powered so is not as good at low altitude. The ER has a small warhead. The AASM uses the BLU-111 so it has penetration capabilities in a smaller package than the 1000lbs JSOW, so that 3 can be carried per pylon.
What else, it’s really tiring to debunk all that crap…
Even ignoring the costs from the CPRA report from 2010, the unit cost will still get revised upwards to €300,000, since the total order has been reduced from 4200 to 1728 units.
Egypt has ordered 180 AASMs and the production will remain open until 2018. And it is being integrated on other planes, like the F-16 and mirage 2000. So the production may well continue.
I’d say you’re welcome except that I’m not Boeing and you’re not my subcontractor i.e MBDA.
Nice that you are not Boeing because it would be rather embarassing to admit that you can’t make a wing kit. :apologetic:
Is that normal in Iqaluit ?
89.2 minus centigrade is the record; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest_temperature_recorded_on_Earth
I don’t know if it is normal. The jet Stream is behaving abnormally quite often now so it might be colder than normal.
The -46C of yesterday is the temperature felt, with the wind and humidity. Without them it was around -30C. The record of -89 probably does not take wind and humidity into account.
Fulcrum-aholic said before that the coldest he has seen is -50C and -75C with the wind.
The humidity factor must make it seem colder in the winter and warmer in the summer I imagine. It is the same in Montreal with the Saint-Lawrence and the lakes around.
Geez I don’t think I would hold long in Iqaluit. Temperature felt now, -46C.
I don’t care if it’s a bit cold as long as I can go outside without too much disconfort, say not colder than -15C. Colder than that it gets boring.
More nonsense. But quickly…
As opposed to totally arbitrary criticism of the F-35. Most people have known for years that the SDB-2 was a Block 4 weapon, but somehow several folks here are only now realizing it. Unless you have other reason for deciding that March 2015 is an ideal time to whine about it.
I have known from quite some time that the SDB2 had been pushed from block 3 to block 4. The criticism of the F-35 is not arbitrary at all, the program is 16 billion over budget and 7 years late DUE MAINLY TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
So you’re retracting the part about 2 Aim-120s being an insufficient payload for the transitional period between the Block 2B and 3F?
What?? I don’t retract anything. 2 AIM-120C is insufficient until block 3F and 4 AIM-120C is insufficient from block 3F to block 4. The external AIM-9Xs reduce the stealth of the plane, talk about a half ass idea. And I would even say that after 2022 when the F-35 gets the 120D, it will be a relatively old weapon at this time. It won’t be before the mid 2020’s that the F-35 will be well armed with the successor of the AMRAAM hopefully. Also a bad news is that the 9X block 3 has been cancelled.
Point is to replace the F-15C, F-16, A-10 and Harrier. None of which are scheduled for retirement in 2018. And the F-35 wasn’t designed around the SDB-2 (even though it will be equipped with it). If integrating the SDB-2 before 2022 were an operational imperative, it would have gotten done.
More BS, not even worth a response.
No one had any expectations in 2009, of the F-22 build order carrying on to 750 aircraft. And with the F-35’s domestic orders pegged at 2,500, the presence or absence of another few dozen F-22s won’t be the factor determining the capabilities planned for the F-35.
Same. F-35 fanboyism.
No the BS argument is saying that in the four years between 2018 and 2022, its essential to be able to hit more two targets (or four targets for typical fighter pair) with an internal payload. Assuming that every other aircraft in the USAF, USMC and USN is inoperational with their crews on vacation, the enemy’s radar has not been targeted and SAM sites are still functional. But hitting that fifth moving target on the ground is the over-riding priority.
Yes the A-10 can perform CAS until 2022. As can the F-16 and F-15E. And since they can do a lot more than just CAS they’ll both be in service in 2022 while the A-10 will have been retired.
No the obvious BS argument comes from the F-35 fanboy who thinks that by luck there won’t be a conflict that would require a lot of smart bombs against moving targets.
The A-10 will be retired despite what 95% of the JTACs have been repeating over and over, which is that the A-10 is a better CAS Platform. And also despite the obvious fact that the F-35 will be poorly armed for CAS in stealth mode until block 4 ( plus no ROVER, no IR pointer… you know the whole story… ).
You do realise that the US military has a huge fleet of tactical fighters to shoulder operational requirements, don’t you? It is disingenuous to insist that the F-35’s weapon integration ought to done in double time without taking this obvious fact into account.
Nonsensical argument… The F-35 is stealthy so can be used in much more difficult scenarios than legacy planes. Unless you want to lose 50% of your F-16s in a short period of time.
The Eurocanards operated in Afghanistan and Libya paired with older types for buddy lasing. If they can ‘make do’ with a reduced capability set for a brief period, so that the Americans for far briefer period.
The typhoon is primarily a fighter. Again, as said before, you can’t compare the budget that Europeans have for their fighters to the F-35 program.
So basically what you’re saying is that you want the F-15Es will designate the targets for the SDB IIs dropped from the F-35s? Talk about a BS idea in a high intensity conflict…
The first Rafales were delivered to French Navy in 2000. Unless the Rafale also adopted the (much derided) concurrency model, that makes it 10 years to Damocles integration and independent precision strike capability.
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipement/aeronautique/le-rafale
Mise en service op�rationnel (MSO) de la flottille 12 F Juin � 2004
Inauguration du premier escadron Air � Saint-Dizier Juin � 2006
The AASM has been in service since 2007.
As for ‘wadayathink’ – I think the AASM costs $400K each (incl. R&D) and there’s a very good reason why the French ordered Paveways and why the Gripen flies with the SDB rather than the AASM.
The AASM is used against high end targets and can be launched from low altitude from a stand off distance. The rafale can destroy 6 aircraft shelters in one sortie from a safe distance at low alt, or attack radar sites etc while remaining safe. Not good enough for you I guess…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AASM
The 2012 defence budget presented to the Senate reported the project had cost �592.2m (~US$800m) with a unit cost of �164,000, or �252,000 including development costs
E252000 is around $300000 with R&D.
Btw you know who makes the wing kit of the SDB1? MBDA:
http://mbdainc.com/mbda-missile-systems-produces-10000th-diamond-back-wing-for-the-small-diameter-bomb-program/
MBDA received a “Boeing Performance Excellence Award” for the diamond back. Thank you very much!