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  • in reply to: Which Squadrons…? #1817405
    VoyTech
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    Which Squadron flew the first ever flight made by Allied fighters over Germany? It including Pilot Officer O.R. Chapman of Timaru, New Zealand. They flew Mustangs and strafed an enemy camp, a factory, a gasometer and some barges.

    Any ideas?

    Doesn’t seem to fit. The Polish Wing from Northolt flew over Germany in the area of Aachen in the summer of 1943 (I don’t have the date at hand) on a B-17 escort mission. It was recorded in the RAF Northolt Combat Diary as the first Allied fighters over Germany since the start of this war.
    Assuming the Northolt entry is correct, I presume you mean the first Allied fighter mission scheduled to attack targets in Germany. Unless P/O Chapman was with no. 124 Sqn at the time, as this was also part of the Northolt Wing at the time, but flew Spitfires, not Mustangs.

    in reply to: Which WWII aviator/s would you make a film about? #1817709
    VoyTech
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    I mean which version of his death is correct?
    I’m the kind of person who likes to separate fact from fiction!!

    This is certainly true:

    “…71-year-old “Johnny” Zumbach had been found dead in Paris. No cause of death was ever announced…”

    But if you give it a thought, many people die at 71 without anybody thinking there is something unusual about it.

    Speaking of mysterious deaths and potential film heroes, Eugeniusz Horbaczewski would be another one.
    He joined the Polish AF shortly before the war, and his commission date was 1 September 1939.
    When in Britain he was posted to 303 Sqn in 1941. He opened his score there, and was a brilliant fighter from the outset, despite the fact that he didn’t look much like a fighter pilot: short and thin, and rather weak in appearance. In late 1942 he was kicked out of the famous Polish squadron, the reason being that he ran a slightly too colourful life, so to speak. Incredibly, the 303 OC that had him go was… Jan Zumbach, not really a strict disciplinarian! It was then that Horby (or Dziubek as he was known to friends) swore he would better Zumbach’s score of air kills.
    In 1943 Horby fought in North Africa in the Skalski’s Circus, and then volunteered to fly with an RAF squadron. He soon took command of no. 43 Sqn. He was really loved by his men. One of his pilots, Norby King, wrote in his memoirs that when he learned of Horby’s death later in the war, his first thought was if I am to go, it would have been good to have gone down with him
    Horby then went back to Britain and took command of no. 315 Sqn, soon making it the top scoring Polish unit of the period. He also managed to fulfill his oath, at the time when his squadron was part of a wing led by J. Zumbach. He was killed in an epic mission when no. 315 was credited with the largest number of enemy aircraft ever destroyed by a single squadron in one combat.
    Circumstances of his death have not been ascertained. Some accounts said he was shot down by the Focke-Wulfs, others credited his death to Flak. It was said that he was ill when he flew his last mission, and said before taking off that if we encounter the Germans I will not return. Others said he may have chosen to die a glorious death rather than face political dilemmas – by that time he already knew the Eastern part of Poland (where his home town was) had been handed over to Stalin by Western Powers, to be incorporated in the USSR. And it seems certain that more than one girl weeped after he failed to return…

    in reply to: Which WWII aviator/s would you make a film about? #1817772
    VoyTech
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    So what IS the right version?? :confused:

    What do you mean by ‘right’?
    I think he was this kind of a man that had he died a natural death in his own bed, surrounded by his family, many people would consider this was not the right way to die for him.

    in reply to: Which WWII aviator/s would you make a film about? #1817815
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    Voytech, I really like the sound of your idea of him for a subject of a film, but I have to say (however accurate) Daz’s ending sounds more dramtic and better for a feature film. 🙂

    That’s probably why the American authors chose this version of the story to put in their book 😉

    in reply to: Sea Plane Quiz #1821462
    VoyTech
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    Both shots are of the same aircraft, S-1014, number 4.

    Are you sure it’s not 1041?

    in reply to: Which WWII aviator/s would you make a film about? #1821546
    VoyTech
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    Hmmm… VT, don’t want to question your sources or knowledge, but the book For Your Freedom And Ours states something otherwise about Zumbach’s death.

    At least I’m pretty sure it’s him, anyway, I could of course be (and probably am) wrong.

    Daz,
    1) By all means, do question my sources or knowledge if you think I’m wrong! Other forumites have tried to in the past, and many of them succeeded. That’s what this forum is about, isn’t it?
    2) I don’t have my copy of “A Question of Honor” (that’s the original title which got changed when they translated the book from American to English), so I cannot check at the moment what you meant – do you mind being more specific?
    3) Anyway, I meant to say that he didn’t die in any of the wars he fought in, nor was he killed in a crashed aeroplane or anything like that. I know various stories are told of the actual circumstances of his death, but AFAIK: he was pretty old when he died, he was a family man when he died, he was quite happy with his life when he died.

    in reply to: Which WWII aviator/s would you make a film about? #1821675
    VoyTech
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    How about Jan (Jean) Zumbach?
    – a Swiss national (how many pilots of Swiss parentage fought in WWII?)
    – fought in the Battle of Britain, and with some success
    – commanded 303 Sqn
    – the unit under his command introduced the 94 FS to the tricks of fighter combat over Europe when they arrived in Britain in the autumn 1942 (that’s for Hollywood, although they would probably put this part of the story the other way round)
    – led a Mustang wing in 1944 (for Hollywood: they escorted US bombers over Germany)
    – became a smuggler after the war, carrying gold accross Europe, watches from Switzerland, and soldiers to Israel
    – as a mercenary he set up the Katangese Air Force
    – he then organised the Biafran Air Force in another war in Africa
    – meanwhile he owned a night club in Paris
    – died as a happy family man
    In general: he drank a lot, he flew a lot, and chased girls a lot. Perfect movie character.
    And he wrote his slightly improved autobiography “On Wings of War”/”Mr Brown”, so there is no problem with the basic script.

    in reply to: Spitfire/U.S. Markings/Italian Campaign #1829730
    VoyTech
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    Argh, those two RAF Squadron IDs and codes are driving me nuts. Something tells me it was 65 Squadron and….92 Squadron? (Both wearing the codes ‘QJ’??)

    Ah, you meant nos. 92 and 616 both using QJ during the Battle of Britain. QJ was no. 616’s pre-war code (GR being 92’s), but for some reason 616 continued to use them well into the war. Some nice pictures of 616’s Spitfires are usually captioned as ‘no. 92 Sqn Spitfires’.

    in reply to: Spitfire/U.S. Markings/Italian Campaign #1829759
    VoyTech
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    Maybe they just had the same codes? That occasionally happened in wartime. I’m sure two RAF Squadrons flew with the same codes at one point (the exact two escape me, although they both operated Spitfires at the time in question).

    ZF codes were used at the same time on Spitfires of no. 308 (Polish) Sqn in Europe and no. 549 in Australia.

    in reply to: Preserved aircraft 'Biographies' #1552223
    VoyTech
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    Cheers Mike,

    That lower one is a new to me.

    Can you please PM details.

    Is it still in print I wonder?

    Ditto.

    I have one of the TB752 books (the one with all of the titling in blue) and find it very good. The first Spitfire book I know of that reproduced an original order for Spitfire XVI’s where they are referred to as “Mk IX (Packard Merlin)”! Also some great 66 Sqn Spitfire shots, previously unpublished to my knowledge.

    Nedless to say, both Hugh Smallwood’s books – the PL965 and ML407 ones are top quality. I only wish he did that MK959 publication he was working on some years ago when I last saw him…

    May I ask, JDK, if there is any particular reason why you have asked the question…?

    in reply to: Charles E Brown #1552236
    VoyTech
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    Also driving with a Griffon VI at the time so I’m not sure what it makes her other then a test bed.

    I would say this Spitfire was never anything other than a test bed. There was a couple of them like this: N3297, DP851. Often labelled as “prototype this or that”, but in fact more like what we call now “technology demonstrators” than real prototypes for any particular version.

    Clive Gosling flew MB882, the last XII the same day for photos as well so DP845 wasn’t being used for XII work. I imagine it was geared towards Seafire XV work at that point

    Quite!

    RAF Museum but not necessarily all catalogued.
    Mark

    I believe they were all catalogued – in the good old sense of a typed listing on paper: frame no. plus subject (usually serials and people’s names quoted, not just “a Spitfire and its pilot”). Availability is another matter – I think at the moment they are in the process of digitalisation, which might mean that noone can see them at all.

    in reply to: Colour WW2 Pics #1562082
    VoyTech
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    another beauty; RAF Mustang wrapped in plastic before crating ans shipment to the UK.

    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    That’s nice!
    Got any more RAF Mustangs in colour?

    in reply to: Colour WW2 Pics #1562143
    VoyTech
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    But it seems to me that the last one was in fact a b&w shot that was coloured for publication.

    Of course I meant the RAG-coded 21s, not the SAAF Vs.

    in reply to: Colour WW2 Pics #1562144
    VoyTech
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    Hmmm…found another one in my collection.

    Allan

    Nice collection, Allan. But it seems to me that the last one was in fact a b&w shot that was coloured for publication.

    in reply to: YOUR extra at Legends… #1562153
    VoyTech
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    B-24, no doubt about that.
    Can’t believe the good old Lib only got one mention so far, somewhere at the end of a post. Do you all get commission from Boeing, or what?

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