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  • in reply to: Gloster Meteor VW453 history required #1002934
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    Meteor VW453

    Mornin’ All,

    In the late 1970’s I was working the Microbiological Research Establishment at Porton Down and had quite a bit to do with this particular aircraft. It was devoid of all marking externally and attempts to identify the airframe took some time, however internal panels revealed that the majority of the aircraft was made up of VW453. I know for certain that at least the canopy and frame were from WA709 (it was so marked). I later got involved in attempts to save this composite for preservation and negotiations were fairly advanced when things fell through.

    I did manage to get a little info from A&AEE (as was) at Boscombe Down and their reply to my enquiries is below. It probably does not add anything to the story but may prove interesting nevertheless.

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    As stated somewhere earlier on in this thread, it was used by the safety department at MRE for bacterial persistence tests but had been thoroughly decontaminated by the time I first got involved with it.

    I have photographs of it at Hard Target as well as the two Whirlwinds that were on other trials work with both MRE and CDE if anyone is interested.

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    in reply to: 1970s Duxford – early days #990479
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    More Nostalgia

    I think its really interesting to see old photographs. I enjoy shuffling through mine but enjoy even more looking at those of others. Specially when they are in colour, I could not afford colour till the late 70s.

    Anyway to add to the nostalgic feeling, here are some of mine from Duxford in 1973.

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    in reply to: Help needed with a Christmas gift #991669
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    Thanks

    Thanks to you both for your help. I now have a bit more info than I did when I started.

    I probably ought to try and learn more about US military aviation.

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    in reply to: Help needed with a Christmas gift #992441
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    Consul,
    Many thanks for your prompt response. Its good to see some other shots of the aircraft in a different guise.

    You guessed correctly, searching on 8087 came up with all sorts of interesting stuff, but not really what I was after.

    Do you know if it is possible to get a detailed summary of its history, dates unts etc. I am beginning to suspect that may be difficult.

    Thanks all the same.

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    Sorry for the quote, seems like I screwed something up. Nothing new there then…..

    It’s full serial will be 48-087. If you search using that rather than the truncated version 8087 used as a tail code, you may have more success. For example, a further picture of this machine in an earlier guise when it was a B-50D can be seen here:
    http://www.angelfire.com/dc/jinxx1/97thBW/B50D49087.jpg

    The site which displays the picture and background details is at: http://www.angelfire.com/dc/jinxx1/97thBW/97thBW.html

    Your picture, however, depicts it later in its career after conversion to KB-50J. The unit mentioned on the mount of your picture was based at McGuire AFB, New Jersey.

    Tim

    in reply to: RAF Swanton Morley in the late 1960s (Revived thread) #948871
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    Before I post the last set of photos I thought I would just add a little about the AIS and CSDE to whom it belonged. My father was there from 1964 till he retired from the Air Force in 1970 (he then went to 4 SoTT at RAF St Athan as a civvi instructor)
    During his time at CSDE and AIS his team were responsible for writing the maintenance schedules for the Sioux HT2 and the Phantom FGR2. The eventual outcome of this work were the APs that we all know and love.

    One more point, The Canberra was there when I was in the area as I saw it many times. Not sure when it arrived but when I saw it for the first time it was a dusty derelict fuselage lying in one corner of the AIS hangar.

    Onto the last of the photos.

    I do not have exact dates for most of these pictures although I do know that the first two were June 1969.

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    The Beaver was just stopping off one afternoon for fuel and lunch for the crew in the mess.

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    I know that this is an RF 3 cos it says so on the tail.

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    Quite some time before the RAF left the airfield in the hands of the Army, they moved the gate guard Javelin. These few shots show it sitting on a Queen Mary (or Elizabeth) awaiting transport to???

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    I have this next one listed as a Stampe SV4C, can anyone confirm?

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    This one is definitely a Beagle Pup, unless someone wants to correct me.

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    Another strange one to me. I have it recorded as a Currie Wot?

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    A colour view of the guardian Javelin XA549, obviously before it was dismantled.

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    Here is the colour shot of NMV I mentioned earlier.

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    Final three coming up. This must have marked the start of me trying to be artistic and taking photos from unusual angles.

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    Taken by clambering up on top of the fuselage and hanging onto the fin

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    Not too sure but I seem to remember climbing up a nearby tree in order to get this one.

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    That’s it from Swanton Morley. Hope you enjoyed the trip down memory lane, I did.

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    PS, Scranton is not one of my favourite places!!!!!!!!!

    in reply to: RAF Swanton Morley in the late 1960s (Revived thread) #949188
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    Next installment

    I was a little surprised at the speed and number of responses both on the forum and via PM so I have forced myself to put the scotch to one side whilst I put some more pictures.

    First some more of the private aircraft (that I don’t know very much about).

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    Next is the Javelin that used to sit on the main gate. I never quite understood why a Javelin was placed there; there was obviously no historical connection. Maybe they just had a spare aircraft and a vacant lot just alongside the guardroom.

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    One of the two glider winches.

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    Not sure if this was based or just visiting.

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    Another visitor (I will leave it to others to identify the aircraft type…..that way I will not embarrass myself).

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    I must have really liked this Tiger, I took many photos of it. I assume it was a Norfolk & Norwich club aircraft. In fact t was the subject of my first venturing into colour photography as you will see later on…must have been that sunburst colour scheme that caught my eye.

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    The cockpit of the above Tiger, G-ANMV.

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    And another of the same Tiger

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    Another 10 or so to go, they will be the subject of the next post.
    Now where did I put that scotch?

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    in reply to: Sea Fury Identity #1062508
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    Lee,
    Thanks for your insights.

    I am not sure I like the tone of these discussions so I it’s time foe me to bow out and leave the thread to others if anyone wishes to join in.

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    in reply to: Sea Fury Identity #1062966
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    Lee et al,

    Many thanks for your comments and suggestions. I have pretty much come to the end of the road in searching for the identity of this particular aircraft. I did, however come across one piece of information that may have a bearing on this incident although as always not everything hangs togther.

    801Sqn lost three Sea Fury aircraft on the 5th January 1953. The first one is detailed here and was coded 160/R.

    05.01.53 WF626 Sea Fury FB11 coded 160/R of 801 Sqn. During an operational sortie from HMS Glory over Korea this aircraft was hit by AA fire and caught fire. The pilot baled out but was captured before the rescue helicopter could reach him.

    Two further 801 Sqn Sea Fury aircraft were sent out to search for the downed pilot and both were lost. The first of these two has been identified as WE689 and was coded 159/R.

    05.01.53 WE689 Sea Fury FB11 coded 159/R of 801 Sqn. This aircraft in company with one other 801 Sqn Sea Fury FB11 and a USAF helicopter were launched to search for the pilot lost in the crash mentioned above. Unfortunately this aircraft entered a spin and crashed into the ground killing the pilot.

    So far so good, no connection yet except for the fact that WE689 appeared to have the same code as the aircraft in the picture.

    The third loss on this day has not been identified yet but the circumstances seem to mirror exactly those shown in the photo set ie

    05.01.53 Sea Fury FB11 of 801 Sqn. This aircraft was the second 801 Sqn machine involved in the search for the initial Sea Fury FB11 loss. It failed to land back on the ship and ditched alongside. All three Sea Fury FBlls were from HMS Glory. The pilot was killed.

    I wonder if the unknown aircraft is in fact the VX Sea Fury depicted in the photos but somehow the code from the second loss was incorrectly recorded as 159/R when this really applied to the third loss. Not an inconceiable error to make.

    Of course this would shed some doubt on VX636 being the culprit as it was apparently soc some time before Jan 1953

    If I am barking up completely the wrong tree, and that would not be for the first time, does anyone have an identity for the final 801 Sqn Sea Fury loss?

    I have the names of all three aircrew involved in these accidents but prefer not to post them. I know it was a long time ago but still… If anyone needs this info please pm me.

    What do you think, is this plausible or complete nonsense?????

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    in reply to: Sea Fury Identity #1065220
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    Lee,
    When you say

    “It could be VX636; certainly it looks to be the only one which fits. Glory was not on station in Korea at this point (didn’t take over from Ocean until 8.11.52)”

    are you implying that you have a date for the demise depicted in the pictures, if so that would help greatly. I have not seen a date published anywhere.

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    in reply to: Sea Fury Identity #1065409
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    I don’t think it is 636 either

    Lazy8,
    I agree with you, the little history we have for VX636 does not seem to tie in with the pictures. Buit thanks are due for taking the time to do some checking for me. We have probably gone through the same exercise in trying to identify possible candidates with somewhat different results.

    Here are my researches on the aircraft you suggested as possible candidates.

    VX641
    13.07.53 VX641 Sea Fury FB11 coded 128/CW of 738 Sqn. Bounced over the arrester wires on HMS Illustrious and crashed into the No 3 barrier and then hit the ships island and burst into flames.

    This description does not sound like it ditched alongside the ship and also the code bears no resemblence to the 159/R.

    VX662
    04.05.53 VX662 Sea Fury FB11 of 802 Sqn. Failed to recover from a dive bombing attack on a railway bridge 6 miles S of Sariwon, Korea. The unknown pilot was killed. An alternative version records that the catapult failed during launch from HMS Theseus and the aircraft ditched ahead of the ship. The pilot was rescued. NB I can not find a record of a RN pilot being killed on this date.

    Neither of these two descriptions seem like they relates to the pictures. The latter seems more likely exceppt for the fact the Sea Fury appeared to me to be landing and not taking off in the pictures and most certainly did not ditch ahead of the ship. Also apparently not 801Sqn.

    VX674
    08.10.53 VX674 Sea Fury FB11 coded 153/T of 804 Sqn. Ditched just outside the entrance to Syra harbour, Greece whilst flying from HMS Theseus after the engine failed. The pilot was rescued.

    Several things raise red flags here. Firstly the engine does not appear to have failed, although it could of course have been turning but not developing significant power (I dont have the photos available to me at work to double check whether the prop appeared to be rotating or not but I am fairly sure it was). Secondly the aircraft code is not even close to the 159/R in the pictures and thirdly the aircraft is reportedly from 804 Sqn and not 801.

    So I guess we are not much further ahead.

    I am still working on another theory and I will post the results if I think it holds any merit, as soon as I am done checking things out.

    Meanwhile I must thanks those that have already made suggestions and ask that if anyone has any additional info to please post it here and help me sleep at night.

    Regards

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    in reply to: Sea Fury Identity #1066163
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    Thanks for the suggestion of VX636. I have a little history on this particular aircraft but nothing that matches up with the 159/R code or anything else really. Does anyone have a more detailed history that might shed some clues???

    Creaking door, I believe that the numbers you are referring to indeed 59 an abbreviated form of the full 801 Sqn code 159. Hope this helps.

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    in reply to: Malayan Twin and Single Pioneers #1023086
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    I remember when I was about 12 getting very seriously chastised by my father on the subject of Pioneers. We were in his office at 389 MU, RAF Seletar watching them fly circuits. I too referred to them as Singles and Twins.

    It was pointed out, in no uncertain manner that Scottish Aviation built Pioneers and Twin Pioneers. They never built anything called a Single Pioneer.

    It’s funny how one remembers this stuff from so long ago.

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    in reply to: Malayan Twin and Single Pioneers #1032387
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    I remember when I was about 12 getting very seriously chastised by my father on the subject of Pioneers. We were in his office at 389 MU, RAF Seletar watching them fly circuits. I too referred to them as Singles and Twins.

    It was pointed out, in no uncertain manner that Scottish Aviation built Pioneers and Twin Pioneers. They never built anything called a Single Pioneer.

    It’s funny how one remembers this stuff from so long ago.

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    in reply to: Aircraft prang proximity #1050299
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    So Spitfireman, do you know the unit that the Lancaster in your original post belonged to. It appears to wear “H-H”.

    It seems like at least two Lancaster were lost under similar circumstances in similar places (if the info on the net is to be believed). I wonder which one is depicted in your picture.

    Anyone got any thoughts?

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    in reply to: Help needed with Wessex identity #1070269
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    Not sure

    Thanks to all three of you for your comments.

    The description that I have for this incident is as follows;

    “Whilst on a sortie from HMS Blake in the Mediterranean, a fire warning illuminated and the crew could smell smoke. The pilot elected to land in the sea rather than attempt to return to the ship. The aircraft remained afloat for 3 hours but then rolled over and sank after one floatation bag deflated. The three crew were rescued”.

    Whilst there does not seem to be a better fit than XP104, the damage in the photo does not seem to be consistent with the above description. It looks looks to be a more violent ending than just landing on the surface and then rolling over some three hours later. Of course the damage could have been done when it hit the bottom but I am not convinced.

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