the ideal solution will be a plane with a small RCS with a long-range radar F 16 block 60 (not to mention F 22)

The F-16 is one of the most efficient plane in dogfight because it can sustain 9G and have a thrust to wieght ratio.
Wrong. The F-16 best turn rate/radius combo is achieved at 5,5g to 7,33g sustained.
A lot of plane can sustain 9G like the F-16, mirage 2000 included but to do this plane have to go faster then reducing their turn rates.
What is really good with the f-16 is his ability to sustain from 5,5 to 7,33g to obtain his best turn rate/radius combo.
While the static thrust to weight ratio is indeed greater than one, the real thrust, wich is , as on other palnes, lower, doesn’t provides that greater than one T/W ratio.

What ‘s really good about F 16 C and F 15 E is their ability to sustain 9 Gs at full internal fuel load and some respectable weapon load

[I]u are funny man!! I think all of us remember what humilation large Ultra modren USAF with superb state of art planes had to undergo due to punny obsolete North Vietnamese Mig 19’s.[/I

Wow, brilliant argument!
And what was the final kll ratio in that war?]Quoting same Iran example… ask those countries who bought american equipment… later had to face upheavel task of maintaining those very equipment when america withdraws support to suit its convenience!!

PS: ask Pakistan

Irellevant examples.

If the Iranians would not hed dozens of American as hostages for months, ifthey would not support terrorist organizations they would be good US weapon customenrs even today

Pakistan?-Ask Dr. Khan…

The USA wasn’t attacked? WTF was Pearl Harbour all about then?

Yes, but the Brits did not died for the freedom of America.

I wouldn’t say christmas candle, more like vaporized jet fuel, flames, and spinning turbines against a runway all at several hundred mph.

Also to be considered the plane crashed on takeoff, which means a lot of fuel

Did you know that during WW2 the UK alone, not to mention the rest of the Commonwealth, lost as many people as the USA did and yet our population is/was 5 or 6 times smaller? Yet we get it rammed down our throats year on year since that the USA won the war single handed and paid in blood for our freedom? When you say things like this do you think for one second about all the Brits, and not to mention the rest of the Commonwealth, who paid in blood to hand you yours? Yet we never for one second pretend that we did it all alone and Gods forbid if we don’t think about the part the USA paid, that would be unforgiveable.

WTF have to do WWII with F22 ???

The difference is that UK was attacked (or to be accurate declare war to Germany) so the Brits had to fight to defend themselves, while the Americans died (more or less compared to the Bits is not so important) for the freedom of others.
What to say about the 15.000.000-20.000.000 Russians loses?

Let’s compare the Su-27SM and the F-18E, I’m ALL up for it. And then again, you could have compared the Mig-29SMT (essentially a Mig-29M) to the F-18C since the Hornets have received updated APG-73 radars like the Super Hornet, and the Mig-29SMT is essentially an old Mig-29S airframe.

You are wrong about the designation of these aircrafts:

To be more accurate if the Su-27 SM encounters an American fighter it automaticaly become QSu-27 SMWWZZYY. Accordingly the Mig 29 SMT would transform itself in the highly capable QMiG 29 whatever (M, SM, SMT,ZZZRRTT )

Some idiots posted:

ha ! how the high and mighty have fallen ??

ohh… superb plane *thumbs up*

There are a lot of Americans on this forum (I am not one of them), but I don’t remember they celebrate when a Russian (Freach, Indian, etc) plane crashed. Sad reactions…