Think the Lasham crew where after some of the metal fittings.
There was a Baby III that was found in a Dutch barn some years ago, and whose metal fittings (all of them!) were saved by the Vereniging Historische Zweefvliegtuigen (Dutch VGC). The woodwork had to be burnt as it was riddled with woodworm and some other nasties. Some of it I’m sure has been used in other projects, but could check if anything else is available to a good home. The pair of wings I knew of recently went to South Africa, but I may know of a pair of struts if that helps.
That is sooooo much better than it used too look. Fantastic work!
and when I first saw that T21 at Enstone I thought that the fuselage looked fairly OK………..
It was fairly OK. But we want it to be really really good. And that means all the botchjobs have to go. 😀
Or a Yale.
Now here’s a shocker. We pulled out the old stabilizer struts attachment that holds 2 of the 6 bolts that attach the stabilizer to the fuselage. It went out for reasons of play on the bushings, and oversize drilled holes that left far too little meat on the metal for safety (one of the lugs actually failed when we manually pulled it out).
But we were appalled when it came out and the extent of corrosion became visible that had not been noticable when it was still in place. Large surface areas just powdered into dust, and in some cases the exfoliation was over a fifth of the thickness of the aluminium… Oh, and yes, somebody had replaced one half somewhere along the line, and in order to do so had cut the bracket in half with a hacksaw. For comparison: see post #143 for a picture of what it should look like and is about to go in…
As a sidenote, there’s the well-known Pink Panther T.8 at Asperden that’s flying (had the pleasure of flying that recently), and there’s another one flying at Midden Zeeland. The owner also has the remains of another one in storage.
The T31 is a different beast altogether, the Tandem Tutor. Several still flying on the continent.
You simply don’t get it do you?
PEOPLE are more important than bits of redundant, retired, ironmongery – or even woodwork!
I don’t think you’re able to judge my full appreciation of the value of human lives and livelihoods, with all due respect. As I’ve explained before, I personally don’t think an aviation forum is the place for me to express that appreciation when it is not related to aviation. And of course I fully understand if others feel differently.
Can we stay on-topic now?
You simply don’t get it do you?
PEOPLE are more important than bits of redundant, retired, ironmongery – or even woodwork!
I don’t think you’re able to judge my full appreciation of the value of human lives and livelihoods, with all due respect. As I’ve explained before, I personally don’t think an aviation forum is the place for me to express that appreciation when it is not related to aviation. And of course I fully understand if others feel differently.
Can we stay on-topic now?
It would appear the Intrepid suffered some damage in the storm:
http://www.space.com/18282-shuttle-enterprise-intrepid-hurricane-damage.html
It would appear the Intrepid suffered some damage in the storm:
http://www.space.com/18282-shuttle-enterprise-intrepid-hurricane-damage.html
Thank you very much for the fittings Dave!
In the meantime, a picture of the cockpit showing some progress.
And we have fitted the stabilizer for the first time in about two decades to re-align the overhauled stabilizer attachent brackets… Cut-out for the elevator will be done as soon as the lower strut fitting is in, and the plywood is finished.
I presume, by your comment, Eric, that you feel some bits of ancient aviation hardware are more important than the people who are likely to be killed/injured by Sandy, and/or the businesses and/or livelihoods that will be destroyed?
Most definitely not. And apologies if it could be read that way, I just thought it outside the scope of this forum. Having been through a major disaster myself I know only too well what the impact of such an event is on peoples’ lives.
I presume, by your comment, Eric, that you feel some bits of ancient aviation hardware are more important than the people who are likely to be killed/injured by Sandy, and/or the businesses and/or livelihoods that will be destroyed?
Most definitely not. And apologies if it could be read that way, I just thought it outside the scope of this forum. Having been through a major disaster myself I know only too well what the impact of such an event is on peoples’ lives.
That’s them! An TWO of them? I thought finding one was asking for the impossible 😉
PM sent with my address. Thanks!
I’m amazed not more aircraft have been brought up.
Some years ago a very badly damaged P-47 was lifted and its pilot finally recovered (story and pics of the plane here: http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/v/p-47D.htm).
Then there was the dozens of aircraft wrecks found when the polders were drained for new land in the 1970s. I don;t have exact figures by heart, but a lot of aircrew were finally recovered and properly buried then. Large sections of these aircraft survive in museum. CeBro will be able to fill you in.