JohnWooreality what reality? Russia raise price all of sudden 5 times for Gas in past 2 years and locked it into yearly contracts without regard to market conditions. U dont have a clue of Oil and Gas opec emerging from Central Asia to Middleast , North Africa to Latin america. u just stay tune for the end game.:D
You are clueless about what the reality is since you still living in the na na land of Soviet day. That reality is the broken of the myth of so called superpower into pieces.
Russia raised their own oil price because their price is still under others, and their cost of operation keep going up. Inflation causes them no choice but to raise the price.
And you think that producing oil and gas let Russia can control the world? And back to super power status? You must be dreaming.
that is net inflow after deducting out flow.
I was talking about other outflows and to the entire economy in overall. Not much trade surplus if no oil and gas export.
real estate bubble? have u studied Russian system?
US is the place where the most immigrants are collected and most of patents are commerical low end. It is not a single ethinc power. Russia can also build cities and provied free Gas, electricity and above all Water and collect all world top immigrants but it chose not to do so.
You know US consists of many immigrants? There are many successful companies formed by these immigrants, Russian immigrant just a minor one in many groups. All these successful operations are done in the US and credit is belong/ contribution to the whole country call USA, not to a single ethnic.
A successful of one particular Russian immigrant in the USA does not contribute anything to the motherland, and won’t make it become a self-called super power again.
You are just keep posting jokes, man. Free electricity, free water, free gas only collects homeless, not top immigrants. Get real, will ya?
and these firms know that most of Professors in these Universities have US education so there students follow the same. these countries have zero contribution to science on there own.
Fortunate enough these professors are educated in US, not in Russia.
I am sure ur living in full paradise. Countries does not become super powers based on making cheap house hold stuff.
Yes, I am living in North America where everyone (including the Russian immigrants) agrees this is a paradise. This land does not need to offer free gas, free electricity, free water, in order to collect top immigrants.
China never called itself as a superpower, and never intended to be a superpower, all they want is to keep develop and produce wealth to their citizens.
Only you are keep dreaming back to the old Soviet day and really wanted to become a superpower again.
Keep dreaming forever, it won’t happen again.
U need bombers with hypersonic missiles, very highy level of intellectual power, econonomic independence, control of pipelines, trade routes, natural resources, bases, and above all spine to support friendly governments with long range avaition and airborne troops. Russia just granted to India Brahmos follow on with Mach 6 speed. imagine what they are preparing for themselves
Very fortunate that Russia government and its citizens do not agree with you. They don’t want to go back to a cold war Soviet era which used up all resources just to build its military might. At the end the entire country broke into many pieces.
You want Russia to repeat the history and another round of breaking again?
Do not need to so proud of some weapon system, they are just a leftover from Soviet. Russia is just continued to complete the project with the financial help from India. If not India funding, this is already gone in na na land.
Besides, a small island like Taiwan already developed on their own supersonic missile, called HF-3. They don’t need outside financing, and they don’t call themselves a superpower. Do you get the difference?
JohnWoowhat kind of nonsens is that. Soviets havent used the power. they were doing just policing duties. and still they won. they had the government for 18 years. and actually North never fell like fall of South Vietnam.
It depends on how u use power. Now times are different.
Policing duties? Using tens of thousand of troops, hundreds of fighter jets, thousands of tanks and hundred of helos to a poor country?
No wonder Soviet day was gone.
Not that they did not use the power, it just that they don’t use the power appropriately. OR their heavy equipments they produced cannot stand light fire arms from the rebels, or they don’t know the fighting tactic anymore. We now know their quality.
JohnWooUS is Super Power for East Asia which it controls.
It has nothing to do with Russia.
It does. Because of USA, a break to the so called super power back into the reality.
so do u think there is no service sector in Russia. they have $42B capital inflow.
Nothing to be proud of, outflow even that and there is no real surplus. Only selling oil make money.
how can expensive real estate is flaw in system? they produce science like US. how many LCD TVs US makes? Russia still makes its own and under its own brand and intellectual property not some foreign assembly. they are expensive they dont the quantity of labor like overpopulated countries in Asia.
Expensive in real estate is just bubble create by those business man, who want to get hold a piece of money making opportunity. They pull up the price skyrise, but actual worth much less than that. It does not equal to their economy level.
Pulling up to the US level don’t automatically make you better. USA is the one who own most of the science patents and they produce wealth. Russia? Just using leftover from Soviet.
the level of R&D they are doing is joke. show me how many Nobel prize winners they had produced and from where there Prof got Phds? russis is just opening up.
Then, all those big firms like Microsoft, SUN, Motorola, are a joke since they were the one forming R&D in Taiwan, China, Singapore etc. Comparing to these companies, Russia’s company are just tiny poh poh and totally a joke.
No matter how many Nobel prize you keep mentioned, if you cannot put that into practical use, it is just useless.
not much better results but cheap results. obviously u cannot compete with lower cost product in terms of quantity no matter how inferior it is.
That cheap result already competitive in the world market, much better than yours.
Man, you are still living in the Soviet glory day, keep dreaming back to the old day. I am sure you will be disappointed, that day will not come back again.
JohnWooPoor rebels? obviously u havent heard about Petro dollars and unlimited supply of men from midldleast. how many armies in world had in mid eighties had Stinger class SAM. those rebels were better equiped and paid than ur PLA. and still they could not capture a single city. and offcourse Soviet didnot use backfires to carpet bomb Pakistan otherwise result would have been entirely different.
Did they called themself a superpower/leader like you?
Did they operate hundreds of fighter jets like you?
Did they operate thousands of Battle tanks/ IFVs like you?
Did they have thousand of military trucks like you?
or hundreds of helos?
That’s amasing. A rebels operating small arm like Stinger post that kind of damages to a so called superpower.:D
JohnWoothe point is not isolation. the point is to create Leadership position and use that to squeeze others.
Wow, you are still live in the cold war era and the boom day of soviet, not any more man.
This is already a polar world, no one give a damn to self-called leader.
Only one super power/ leader left, that is USA.
there products arent meant for mass market nor US capable of complaining. US can only squeeze those where it has leverage.
A trade surplus not just mess market, but from other sectors like service, outsource etc.
In the case of Russia, the trade surplus only come from digging oil.
nope u havent understand that point. Russia has so high reputation that they can not only produce for the rest of the world but also in house. thats why they have the world most expensive cities not withstanding the large size.
Yeah, a reputation that only produces junkies that’s why no market for their products.
An expensive cities does not mean achievement in economy, it just show how un-balance with their economy, and flaw with their economy system.
Here we are nto talking about R&D center that every multinational has in every corner of the world. It is too create a University that will create future researchers for foreign countries in English language as those countries are not capable of producing what Software giants want in much higher level of complexity.
Forming R&D in China, Taiwan, Singapore etc, telling you what level they are up to. Many of these universities are already formed by the local govn’t, Russia is just started with the help of foreign firms.
Chinese companies came much later after obsorbing some one else tech.
Came much later but show much better result than yours, show how imcompetitive and slowness of your belove.
JohnWoohow is US doing much better job? Is Russia,EU and the whole Islamic world supporting the resistence directly with Active Training camps. US hasnt fought that kind of war so comparision is moot point. and any way Russia spent 10 years in Afghanistan with full control. after that they supported the government for 3 years and after that there was 4 years northern alliance government which was again Moscow allies. so it is 18 years of successful policy of preventing Islaimic extremism from spilling into Central Asia. and its handsomely rewarded today by there strong foot hold.
You named yourself a real super power and a leader, who used up all resource to build up the military. Even supported by the US and Pakistan, you were mainly fighting to a poor country’s rebels who only had light weapons.
Here is what your damage:
Soviet troops withdrawing from Afghanistan in 1988.
The toll in casualties, economic resources, and loss of support at home increasingly felt in the Soviet Union was causing criticism of the occupation policy.Official Soviet personnel strengths and casualties
Monument to Soviet Soldiers in Afghanistan. Kiev, UkraineBetween December 25th, 1979 and February 15th 1989 a total of 620,000 soldiers served with the forces in Afghanistan (though there were only 80,000-104,000 force at one time in Afghanistan). 525,000 in the Army, 90,000 with border troops and other KGB sub-units, 5,000 in independent formations of MVD Internal Troops and police. A further 21,000 personnel were with the Soviet troop contingent over the same period doing various white collar or manual jobs.
The total irrecoverable personnel losses of the Soviet Armed Forces, frontier and internal security troops came to 14,453. Soviet Army formations, units and HQ elements lost 13,833, KGB sub units lost 572, MVD formations lost 28 and other ministries and departments lost 20 men. During this period 417 servicemen were missing in action or taken prisoner; 119 of these were later freed, of whom 97 returned to the USSR and 22 went to other countries.
There were 469,685 sick and wounded, of whom 53,753 or 11.44%, were wounded, injured or sustained concussion and 415,932 (88.56%) fell sick. A high proportion of casualties were those who fell ill. This was because of local climatic and sanitary conditions, which were such that acute infections spread rapidly among the troops. There were 115,308 cases of infectious hepatitis, 31,080 of typhoid fever and 140,665 of other diseases. Of the 11,654 who were discharged from the army after being wounded, maimed or contracting serious diseases, 92%, or 10,751 men were left disabled.[12]
Material losses were as follows:
118 jet aircraft
333 helicopters
147 main battle tanks
1,314 IFV/APCs
433 artillery and mortars
1,138 radio sets and command vehicles
510 engineering vehicles
11,369 trucks and petrol tankers
JohnWooU cannot judge a country strength based on some performance in third world country. infact Russia war performance has been better if u compare the current wars.
Current Russia war? To Afghanistan 15-20 years ago? Man, they were beaten badly with high attrition rate and at the end, they had to withdrew from there. USA is much, much better doing this job.
how is that non sense.
I already told you.
whats the point of that wealth if u are not independent.
This is highly globalization world now. Country A depends on Country B, while also happen the other way around. Whoever within this group, producing WIN-WIN situation.
Whoever not in this group, just being isolated and in result become a loser.
cheaper because of currency manipulation and economies of scale.
There is a hugh surplus trading for China to the US, and this trend is keep going up. So, there must be some voices, I don’t blame them.
A 26.55 Russia Ruble exchange to 1 USD, but there is no voices concern from US, because it is irrelevant. Their products can’t compete, and no much trade surplus.
I don’t blame them.
on what basis ur saying this. these people have created reputation so all the Multinationals fund Russian reasearch programs for future generations.
Immigrants to foreign and formed successful business and contribute to the immigrant country, but not to the motherland. A research program or center is just a usual business procedure, that carry out to many countries, Taiwan, China, Singapore, and may others are among them.
they are not produced by Russia but there future survival depends upon Russia for creating next generation products. Infact Gates has proposed International University for Software development in Russia. where the rest of the world will learn how to make creative software.
Even no Russia, these gigantic firms were already successful in their days. Your sounded like if no Russia, these firm were bankrupt and cannot survive in the future, what a joke.
Gates already form R&D center (NOT PROPOSED) in China, Taiwan etc. So Microsoft future survival is depended on China and Taiwan? What a joke.
how can no one in open market knows about. they have research center for all the multinationals. it is not limited to one firm.
http://www.infinetwireless.com/Company
InfiNet Wireless’ leading-edge wireless routing products represent over 13 years of intense engineering efforts by our world-class Russian development laboratories coupled with extensive field experience in design and deployment of thousands of wireless carrier-class networks successfully operating in many countries of Europe, Russia, China, SE Asia and the Middle East
In the early 1990’s, InfiNet Wireless was one of the first companies in the world to pioneer broadband wireless access technologies to create Metropolitan Area Networks
What so hype about it? Just a usual marketing boost by a small tiny firm trying to stay alive.
China already has dozens of these companies competing in the global market. No need to be hype. Volume speaks itself.
Here is one of the many.
Huawei Technologies is a leader in providing next generation telecommunications networks. The company is committed to providing innovative and customized products, services and solutions to create long-term value and potential growth for its customers.
Europe
Asia Pacific
Middle East & North Africa
North America
Sub-Sahara Africa
Latin America
Commonwealth of Independent States
East Pacific
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JohnWoothe bottom line is Russia much stronger at the end with its powerful Nuclear Force and first and second strike ability with wide dispersion. better airdefence and early warning system.U dont have anything. thats why u cannot solve taiwan or anyother issue.
Does it stronger than USA?
Don’t you know that most of their weapons rusted in the warehouse, and most of them not operatable? Man, you better imagine all these rusty stuffs cost the entire Soviet country.
China does not need to solve Taiwan issue now, they are not in hurry.
As long as keep this trend going, some positive outcome will happen in the future.
how is that nonsense.
No one was talking about free sharing resource and science, and you blast out one totally non-related issue. Isn’t it nonsense?
Russia already paid not ony its debt but also of all the 15 republics. Japan cannot pay its own debt. Japan and China have yet to stand on there own feet. they need US market, education, research and protection for stable supply of natural resources.
Yeah, they don’t need a market to sell their products (or their products can’t compete with others), that’s why their economy stay in the third line, and that’s why they can only pay their debt by digging its oil.
Japan and China does not need to pay up all of their debt, as long as they keep producing revenue and their economy is on trend. The fact shows that it does working very well, and already generate a lot of wealth for Japan, and China is to be following.
there is nothing to find. accept cheaper version of already existing stuff.
That’s the art of science to produce the same stuffs in cheaper way, that’s why their economy is much better and more competitive than your belove.
they point. these people got USSR education that was built by Russia. and that science is there contribution to materai wealth of the west. ever thought about intangibles.
But, they did not contribute to their own motherland which already brain draining. How sad!!
one or two fields. u name it is there. starting from world biggest firms. Sun was among the first firms that went to Russia in 1990. Infact what Bill Gates from Russia is quiet embrassing for other third world countries.
Sun and Gates are not produced by Russia, they are the property of USA.
In fact, I really sympathy to SUN, a strongest firm that has no more competitiveness now and become second line company whose market value decrease to 20% left. Better just stay in USA.
“This is a breakthrough for the entire telecommunications industry; the significance of this innovation is difficult to overestimate,” said YS Kim, telecommunications director for Samsung Electronics Russia. “Our new solution, developed in partnership with i-Free, opens new horizons for both our subscribers and our company. We are positive that our continued partnership with i-Free will further consolidate consumers’ loyalty to the Samsung brand.”
The new Java browser is based on the Sapphire technology, developed by i-Free, providing the groundwork for powerful integrated Java solutions catering to the needs of every customer bracket: phone manufacturers, operators, media companies, and others. Creating portals for manufacturers is now a priority line of business for i-Free.
The first Samsung E900 phones with embedded Java browsers for the Samsung Fun Club portal are slated to go on the Russian market later in July.
What so good about it? If not Samsung, no one in the open world market even know about it.
China was already producing these software codes (browser) for their own cell phone market.
This is just to show how they lack competitiveness in the open world market. Their product is only stay in their own region:
Here is from their official site:
Being one of the leading Russian content-providers, the i-Free company makes extra mobile phone services available for the cellular operators networks in all regions of Russia and in the Ukraine. The company creates and implements new and unique services on the mass and B2B markets.
JohnWooNope China stop believing on there sytem back in 70s.
Smart for China that it never used up all its resource just to make weapons. Instead, they alter their system to build up their economy first, and their secondary role is build up their defense from a small percentage of their wealth.
Get real US has bought 1.3B Chinese with that $250B a year products. Russians just didnot want to share there resources and science for free with other republics.
Huh? What are you talking? Man, you are just full of these non-senses as usual.
the point is foreign knowledge went to Chinese sytems that was obtained due to US/USSR differences. If there was no cold war US and West would simply wouldnt allow it. Soviet Union didnot use 120% of resources. there debt level never went that high like Japan.
The point is China obtained these knowledge to build up its infrastructure from scratch is not free. They bought all these equipments, send students to the west, hire scientists and engineers from foreign or internally, all these buildup have to pay. The west earns money from it.
Sure, Soviet’s debt level is not higher than Japan. But, the problem is Soviet does not have money or economy level to pay back its debt while Japan is the most wealth country that can pay its debt easily.
Only recently, Russia has to dig its oil resource to pay back part of its debt.
so show me a single one
Hey, aren’t you regarded as one of the best Google man?
There are dozens of pages over there, go and check it out.
didnot contribute? the whole Information technolgy revolution started by Soviet immigrants. even today the new Intel Santa Rosa platform is designed in Israel. I am not even going into IBS group and others. that new Vehicle collison system.
When did Israel become your belove Soviet or Russia?
We are talking about the country SOVIET or RUSSIA, not IMMIGRANTS .
Man you are full of false logic and ridiculous statements.
Offcourse u cannot see Russian science in retail store. It is present in much higher level where only top mulitnationnals can buy it. and reproduce to manufacture in East Asia.
It does not help just to make one or two fields, no contribution to mankind. But overall industries is just legging the west decades. They don’t have science as borrow from your word.
JohnWooSoviet Union broke up because Russian peole stop believing on there system. it has nothing to do with military spending.
Why stop believing their sytem?
Very simple, their system don’t produce wealth, people were broke.
But, in contrarry, their military expenses used up all resource to compete with USA. The citizens of Soviet could not stand it anymore. That’s why they broke up. PERIOD.
China a started from Scratch? so all the foreign investment, millions of student and still external help from Russia and West does not count. Starting from scratch means u build on ur own.
When is a foreign investment went to China Defense? Please name me one.
When you build up from scratch, it does not mean closing the door and build every nuts and bolts on you own.
Starting to build up mean you start to use money, hire from outside or internally, purchase all necessary equipments, and building the basics. China started this process only within 20 years, and they are in a excellent path now to follow their economy and used appropriate amount of rescource they possess. They don’t need to follow Soviet step to use up 120% of what they made.
China hasnt done anything from scratch so comparision is mute. simple example ever thought who designed first 64 bit DSP. there are plenty of things they did it in 90s. offcourse there is strong momentum from Soviet era to complete and refined those things before going into next phase.
You are just keep BS. You only have bias toward China.
There are a lot of things China start to make, but you just ignore and refuse to have knowledge.
Your belove Soviet used up all its resources (finanlly broke up in pieces)but what did Soviet contribute to the world?
I am in north American, I cann’t even remember using 1 single Soviet or Russia products. Car? Computer and processors? Airplane? Telephone? Clothes?
Nothing man, not a single item!!! 😡
JohnWooYou need lots of very smelly Farts to blow F-2s out of the sky. :p
Yes, it is apply to the F-15.
But, to the F-2, one and the only one is enough.
JohnWooRussia is already making more advance products than China using 70s era technology without that much money and external help. just try to build PS-90A2 or newer NK-321 which propels newer BlackJack with 45 Ton weopons in less than 2 hrs to any target on the World with long range cruise missiles.
what it cant finish on time is based on compeletely new science which China cannot even create in first place let alone build it.
Russia is using all the leftovers from Soviet which used up all of its reresources poured into all these military equipments and infrastructure. All the money were already spent into these infrastructures, human resources, R&D, spy/stolen from the west. All these expenses were already used and built up from Soviet cold war era. That’s why the Soviet broke up in pieces.
China started to build all these stuff only within most recent 20 years. It started all from scratch. Before the 80’s, it did not evemn have financial conditions to complete its project, and no money to build/ train/ form the basis.
If Russia is starting all from scratch like China, the are not better than China.
I don’t recognize a fighter newly built from scratch from Russia. Most (if not all) are just inherited from Soviet, and just to keep upgrade/ improve these leftovers.
JohnWooWow, imagine this “Fangpi”or ‘Fart’ blow the F-2 out of the sky, don’t even need to use its missiles 😀
JohnWooThis guy is just a complete BS, contradicting his own statements.
One time he stated Russia cannot completed its military projects due to its fanicial problem, now saying economy has no relation with defense.
What a joke.
JohnWooThe is the 4th test that is sucessful.
All three tests before this were failed.
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