How many times Russia keep asking China to join PAK-Fa?
What is the China decision as of now?
=== NOTHING YET ===
Russia may offer many sell promotions to China, but China may not necessarily purchase verythig that offered.
John, how do you know ChiCumRen is even Chinese?
I didn’t say he is a Chinese (even though I am guessing he should be a Chinese). I said he is a nationalism toward China because everytime he made a statement, he trashed others stuffs but boosted Chinese products.
I don’t think he’s a China nationality, but rather a Chinese race outside of China, like Hong Kong, Singapore, or even Taiwan etc. base on him typing Traditional Chinese:
舔舔我的雞巴.
in 5 years you see more development in Chinese aviation industry than at least 10 years with Russian industry. it is Amazing how fast L15, J-10, FC-1, etc is turning out. L-15 was only release a year ago and already have more potential than Yak130 which is crashing.
Agree that China is advancing fast, but in general and overall capability and aviation industries, it is still way behind Russia.
Your nationalism blinds your real vision of facts and truth.
This picture here is based on a picture where both FC-1 and J-10 is on the same runway, so there is almost no depth distortion this time. A negative of the J-10 is interposed on the FC-1 image for comparison. Note that the FC-1 is 14.5m in length.
To me it looks like 2 lanes runway where FC-1 is in the left(nearer) and J-10 is a little further in the right lane.
P’sed, all p’sed, according to some red heads.
L-15 in Zhuhai:
A local Chinese newspaper in N. American reported around 13 planes have been sold during the first 2 days of the show, no further detail reported.
Here is the article copy from PAKDEF:
JANE’S DEFENCE INDUSTRY – DECEMBER 01, 2006
Russia decides to supply Pakistan with fighter-aircraft engines
By Robert Karniol, Zuhai Air Show, China. Additional reporting by Ben Vogel, Janes.com Editor
PAKISTAN’S JF-17 light multirole fighter aircraft will be powered by Russian Klimov RD-93 engines – a substantial change in position for Russia which had previously resisted giving Pakistan access to the engine.
Directly contradicting an earlier Russian position, a senior Chinese aerospace official has for the first time publicly confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani JF-17 (FC-1) under development will be powered by the Russian engine. The new position was supported by Russian officials.
“Right now we are using the RD-93 [in prototypes] and it’s Klimov who will do the series production [of the engine]. The engine will be exported to Pakistan,” said Li Pei, development director at China’s Chengdhu Aircraft Industry Group, which is leading the programme and also involved the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.
Klimov mentioned that the FC-1, China’s version of the jointly developed aircraft, is still undergoing “performance flight tests”.
Russian diplomatic and industry officials had previously stated without qualification that the RD-93 powering the FC-1 will not be provided to Islamabad either directly or through re-export. Klimov had reiterated this position only a day before Li’s statement.
Moscow is thought to have hesitated over any deal involving provision of its military products to Pakistan because of concerns centred on its long-standing defence relationship with rival India.
Klimov, in particular, is involved in a Russian bid to supply New Delhi with 126 MiG-29 fighters.
Li reversed this view of the JF-17 programme when questioned by Jane’s at a press briefing organised by Klimov during the China Air Show 2006. He was flanked on the podium by senior officials from both Klimov and the Russian arms exporter Rosoboronexport.
“If we don’t sell [Pakistan the RD-93 engines] then someone else will. It’s just a reality,” said Klimov Director General Alexander Vatagin, in a follow-up comment. Oleg Novikov, a senior official with Rosoborenexport, reinforced the change in position over export of the engine.
“The process to [arrange the provision to Pakistan of the RD-93] is on-going,” he explained.
“The export licence will be granted provided it doesn’t contravene the export laws of Russia or China.”
The Pakistan Air Force earlier this year told Jane’s that it had received firm assurances from China that the RD-93 issue will not prove a problem despite repeated Russian statements to the contrary.
If I will Russia, I won’t sell to Pakistan if and only if India promise me not to buy all her military weapons anywhere else. Otherwise, I have a right to sell to anyone, just like India has a right to buy from anywhere else.
At this highly comercialize day, business comes first.
China’s moon vehicle.
when will this vehicle walk on the moon surface?
Long awaited WS-10A
FC1 cockpit, looks good. I still don’t like the HUD.
oooh, wow!
A lucky Russia pilot
This is very interesting, CFM56 core:
JH7 export model (showing 9 hardpoints), hopefully a real one flying:
Su will fly at the show: