I bet MT-Propeller will provide new blades quite fast. Another example why wooden (composite) props are not the worst choice. Even if the engine were running, damage to engine parts are minimal. Have a look at the French Yak 3 crash. I bet that engine has a lot of damage in comparison. Metal props do have their disadvantages…..

Michael

MJ772 D-FMKN is not and never was owned by Meiermotors. It was there for overhaul / repair for getting airworthy after purchase. It is owned by AirFighter Academy Heringsdorf (Island of Usedom), Germany.

Michael

I found 3 battles mentioned in “Luftkampf zwischen Sand und Sonne” , German edition of Christopher Shores / Hans Ring: “Fighters over the Desert” on the 7th December 1941. First was quite early, before 07.00, second one after 10.00, the third about 1 hour later, take off in Tobruk. I believe you are interested in the 3rd one. Involved was 274. Sqn. (SAAF). West of El Adem they found 15 Ju 87, 6 Bf 109, and 12 Italian fighters of all types. The 109´s flew high cover, diving for shots and going up again. The Italians seemed to be trained tactically far worse. 2 Macchi MC 202 were shot down by Sqn.Ldr. Linnard and PO Keefer, 2 more probable ones by Sqn.Ldr. Linnard and PO Weeks. PO Moriarty shot down one Ju 87 and one Fiat G-50, Sgt. Parbury destroying a downed Ju 87. 3 Hurricanes were shot down, (FL Hobbs, PO Sutton, PO Gains) by 3 Bf 109. Pilots were Lt. Marseille, Ofw. Espenlaub, Uffz. Grimm. There is no mention of any loss of a Bf-109 during this battle. Maybe the Italian Macchi MC 202 were mistakenly recognised as 109`s? But there is a mention of the loss of 2 Bf-109 during the earlier battle (10.00 onwards. The authors presume that these 2 109`s were Italian ones. (1 MC 202, 2 Bf-109, one damaged Fiat G-50), allied unit was 1.SAAF Sqn.

Michael

P.S.: Translated and paraphrased by me, if wanted i can scan the relevant part

Shame that the 109 cant fly in the UK !

Steve”P”

Why not? :stupid: You just could say, they did fly over Britain perfectly well in 1940, if not shot at….. :highly_amused:

Michael

@ Graham Boak;- ‘They had fuel injection but we had superior superchargers – and turbochargers if you include the US. Their engines were a third bigger to give the same power.’

Not wishing to be a pedant, but my understanding is that the Jerries used larger engines as they were using low-octane fuel made from coal for the most part, not really having any oil. They were however, using water-methanol injection and their Commandgerrat (Sp..?) engine management sytem was light years ahead of our fist-full of levers. HOTAS years before FADEC and HOTAS were dreampt-up.

@Snoopy7422: Spelling is: “Kommandogerät”, or, if no “ä” is available spelling would be correctly: “Kommandogeraet”. (quite usual for ä – ae, ö – oe, ü – ue)

My personal opinion is, that you can not generalise. I would not say, that Germans were generally better at making aircraft, nor the British. You just can not answer this question if you want to regard every aspect necessary. There were pros and cons. Some things were better, some not. I do not know if it would have been “better” to stay with a only a few proven types like the 109, 190 and Ju 88. But there were some quite interesting and ingenious solutions which gave input to post war aircraft.

Michael

Any update available on this stunning project?

Michael

100th of a sec shutter!

yak_filtered by BMrider2012, on Flickr

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