Current digitization standards may be a VERY unstable and insecure format, with a strong liklihood to become obsolete not only in the LONG term, but in the short term, at the rate computer capabilities and improvements are proceeding. It is hard to fault a cautious archival administrator for lack of jumping into an expensive project of “preserving” the contents of their archives, when the entire COSTLY, and labor intensive project may soon result in obsolete storage media.
One has only to look at the Smithsonian’s program of digitzing several hundred thousands of aviation and space images in its archives, onto 12 inch laser disc media. It was a very labor intensive and costly program which produced a product that was obsolete soon after completion, with rapidly advancing computer technology and hardware.
I have some sets of these images which can be viewed on a large TV or computer screen, with an obsolete laser disc player. Such players had an average price of $600-$700 when new. Surviving laser disc players, that have now gone the way of 8-track audio tape cassettes and players, can still be found (for a limited time, I’m certain) being liquidated on popular auction sites for $10 or Less. I purchased an excellent laser disc player for $15 and often view these wonderful, and often rare, reference images. They are on several 12 inch, two sided discs which can hold nearly 200,000 images Each.
When I spoke to someone in the Smithsonian archives, they said the entire digitization program to that, then, state of the art, standard, was such a disaster, that they had no plans to transfer those hundreds of thousands of digital images to CDs or DVDs or any other current media.
Looks like Breguet type construction?
Well, almost airworthy. They are going to throw one of them out of a Spitfire over France. Then, a TV company are going to send out a team to look for it and make a documentary about it! :diablo:
Maybe, just maybe, I shouldn’t have even gone there………!! 😉
A job for TIGHAR, no doubt. They are the leading experts in finding historic shoe bits, footwear, and ( forget how many..?) related film documentaries.
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Circa 2003, I donated some 35 vintage aero engines to The Seattle Museum of Flight, including a very complete Salmson 9NC, with all accessories and even original exhaust. They may possibly be open to a trade, for a good cause?
That is just Begging to have a vintage clock mounted in it:cool:
The buying, selling, collecting and historical researh of military medals is not a small, obscure field of interest. One needs only to visit the site of The Gentleman’s Military interest Club, where, literally, thousands of medals and ribbons, and awards are avidly collected, traded, bought, and sold. One of the military aviation awards that generate considerable interest are the Pour le Merite awards/medals, many of which were won by some of Germany’s most famous WWI aces. There are numerous threads related to the VC. It would seem that a large amount of these awards are no longer in the hands of the original families. There ARE stories of some of these medals being re-united with the families. often at no cost, or charge to the family, by some generous collector, who had paid a considerable sum for the medal(s).
MOST of the following negatives and photos, from my holdings of the former Chris Ashworth aero negative and aero photo print collections, (mostly British Commonwealth photos) are of these aircraft at bases and in operation all over the UK. but a fair number of everywhere else, from US to Turkish and other Air forces too. Each box has approx 1400 negatives or photos. Approx number of negatives/ptints for each model are in parentheses. Here are McDonnell/McDonnell Douglas aircraft from the 43 page, general index.
There are some 120,000 negatives and 30,000 prints in just the Ashworth collections.
McDonnell NEGATIVES:
BOX 58
McDonnell
Misc. (100)
F-101 Voodoo (69)
F-4 Phantom (300)
BOX 59
McDONNELL-DOUGLAS F-4 PHANTOM
McDonnell Douglas
F-4 Phantom (1,400)
BOX 60
McDONNELL DOUGLAS F-15 EAGLE to MILES MESSENGER
McDonnell photo PRINTS:
BOX 15
McDonnell
Misc (150),
F-4 Phantom (500)
Some nice manuals with this guy.
I see he also has a lot of instruments, and ductwork, bits and pieces, and smaller-but bulky items, wtih opening bid prices of L.99.
And his feedback shows that many of the items DID sell at that low opening bid.
Never quite understood how it pays to take a photo of the item, resize it, post it on ebay, type a description,, then find a suitable mailing box, address, it, go to Post office, for that small amount of .99, *LESS the Ebay and Paypal fees
Hi Dakotaman,
Are you only interested in photos of these specific planes at Hurn?
I just took a brief look at my ex-Chris Ashworth Collection of 120,000 aero negatives (mostly British Commonwealth aircraft)
There are some 600 BAC 111 negatives (all sizes) and approx 75 or so that are of your specific registration numbers Most have dates, place, reg #, & airline info on their individual glassine storage envelopes. Only a small percentage of them seemed to be at Hurn.
Before I make you a list, let me know if negatives of these planes at other sites are of interest.
On a trip to Berlin with the director of the Technik Museum, Dr Holger Steinle, he showed us the remains of the original building. Berlin is a city quite at home with its past.
I share that same wonderful memory, Bruce. One afternoon Holger and I sat looking at that giant piece of concrete slab sticking out of the ground, and discusssing the layout of the destroyed museum. I remember our wives saying we were certainly crazy! 😀
After that, we went back to his offices, and looked through several files of original photos from the museum. Holger and Michael Hundertmark wrote a great illustrated book on the history of the Deutsche Luftfahrt Sammlung, Berlin, Titled “Phoeniz Aus der Asche” In 1985
I was able to enjoy the Airventure webcams every other year. This year, am giving up after some 8-10 tries, at different times, different days. Says my Internet Explorer (which works with just about every other site I visit) “cannot display the website”. If i had been able to upload and watch, I’d probably have spent an hour or more on the EAA site each day. And I’m sure there must be thousands of others. Yeah, I know, if i want to spend a lot of time looking into other browsers and fixes, upgrades etc, I MIGHT get through. EAA needs to do a better tech job on this..
I found it imposible to register to be a member of the vintageleatherjackets forum. (above link) After several frustrating tries, including closing and opening my browser, again, I repeatedly got the error message that I did not answer their “question” correctly. It was about first and last three “characters.” I tried just the letter and number characters, also tried including the keyboard punctuation key characters, in about 5-6 different combinations. no luck. Registering, seems absurdly more complicated than it needs to be. I was quite interested in joining as I have considerable original flying clothing catalogues from all eras, and hundreds of related old, original photos.
**having just tried again..it would seem that I may have, finally, successfully answered the filtering “question” after many tries. If others have had the same problem, perhaps a bit of dogged determination, may lead to similar success.
Hi Dornier;
Also found some 35 old negatives of Do.27s from the old Chris Ashworth Collections, here. Some are color negatives, and some are the old larger negative sizes. Sent you a PM.