And with a warhead.

Starts from 03:05

Could be Bazalt or Vulcan and it doesn’t look to me like it was snaking. More like pulling up from flying to low and almost hitting the drink. Or to gaining altidued to dive as low as possible to hit the lower above waterline.

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From 1:57 you see the Project 688А “vega” sink. Followed by another vessel getting hit by I have no idea what. And another one by Onyx though that footage is from beginning of september as the reportar mentioned.

Looks like a missile falling short and debris hitting the vessel …

F831 Van Amstel with modified stern to accommodate the NH-90

Nice shot. Also note the modified main mast. The modifications include an entirely new command centre and a new mast with modern electro-optical sensors (Seastar and Gatekeeper sensors ), enabling the ship to operate better in littoral waters.
Seastar is a non-rotating active phased array radar for naval surface surveillance. The system automatically detects and tracks asymmetric threats and very small objects such as swimmers and periscopes in all weather conditions. Seastar can also be used for helicopter guidance.
Seastar is internationally marketed as Sea Watcher 100.

Gatekeeper is a 360° panoramic electro-optical surveillance and alerter system based on IR/TV technology. Designed to counter emerging asymmetric threats down to small boats and swimmers, Gatekeeper increases short-range situational awareness in littoral environments.

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Yep two missiles on converging tracks. Odd engagement aspect to come in along the targets long axis….not easy for the seeker to range profile bow or stern on. Wonder if this was some kind of man-in-the-loop salvo fire test.

Seem the first missile, coming in from slighty over the port bow, fragments and does not explode. Penetrates, parts come out on starboard side. Rather, it is the second missile, coming in from dead ahead, that appears to do the most (visible) damage. Most of the explosion is in the stern area.Is it P-500 Bazalt first, then Moskit?

Which radar data are you refering to ?
Onboard radar of the 777 ?

Indra installed ATC
http://defence.pk/threads/flight-mh17-what-youre-not-being-told.326254/page-3#post-6164130

Uksatse | Donetsk Regional Branch: Aerodrome radar ASR-22AL

Uksatse | Dnipropetrovsk Flight Information Region ATCR 33S/SIR S
http://defence.pk/threads/flight-mh17-what-youre-not-being-told.326254/page-3#post-6164294

Will this be another two Atago class destroyers or a new type of AEGIS destroyer?

Seeing 4 Kongo and 2 Atago, my bet would be 2 more Atago.

I can not understand why there are two towers. Every nation is building aircraft carriers with one tower only and they get smaller and smaller (Ford class).

Advantages of the two island configuration on the Royal Navy carriers

Instead of a traditional single island, a current ship design has two smaller islands. The forward island is for ship control functions and the aft (FLYCO) island is for flying control.

Advantages of the two island configuration are increased flight deck area, reduced air turbulence over the flight deck and increased flexibility of space allocation in the lower decks. The flight control centre in the aft island is in the optimum position for control of the critical aircraft approach and deck landings.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/cvf/

BAE System’s Steve Dowdell, Director of Mission Systems for the Aircraft Carrier Alliance, who explains that thanks to miles of fibre optic cables and years of testing this is a ship of ‘firsts’.

“The thing that’s really different about this system from any other carrier in the world is everything is integrated, in the sense that if you’ve got a bit of information in one compartment you can then see that anywhere else on the ship.”
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“We are the only aircraft carrier in the world with two islands, which means we can separate our transmit/receive antennas, it gives us more real estate for comms. Whereas the US carriers are really strapped for space with their single island system, we’ve got 80m between the two island structures.”

Having two islands not only gives the carriers a tactical advantage but it also provides valuable space for even more tech to be crammed into the vessel.

“We have over 1000 PCs and Laptops distributed around each ship, once that system has committed the information it can then be accessed anywhere else.”

Sadly this doesn’t mean you can ‘drive’ the ship from the mess room, but what it does mean is that the carriers each have their own network which can do everything from letting you stream films, to accessing secure tactical information, all from the same terminal.

http://www.t3.com/news/aca-creates-largest-network-on-new-uk-aircraft-carriers

The aft structure is home to Flyco – Flying Control, effectively the carrier’s equivalent of an airport control tower. Ship operations are managed from the forward Island.
I would imagine that if necessary each island can to some extent take over the other island’s tasks, giving a degree of redundancy in case of battle damage.

Do a little checking.

Until yesterday, that route was being used by many airlines. They were all flying above 31000 feet. Airspace had not been closed. A non-binding notice had been issued. Airspace was only compulsorily closed at lower altitudes.

I flew over Afghanistan in the mid-1980s, when the USSR was losing helicopters & other aircraft to Stingers & the like below me. Millions of others have flown over similar war zones in perfect safety.

It would have been obvious to any competent operator that MH17 was an airliner. Its altitude, speed, heading, & the size of the thing were all very different from a combat aircraft, or even a military transport. So either it was shot down by someone who didn’t know how to use his equipment properly, or deliberately targeted.

These attempts to blame the airline disgust me.

we agree

Rebels have been deleting this sort of tweets in a hurry.

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Even if it (captured equipment) still works , you still need some training on how to use it (a manual won’t do)….