India to licence-build three Russian frigates

Why would they, considering their own designs (P15A, P17). It is possible that some of the later planned russian 11356Ms would be diverted to India and get machinery there, given that Ukraine is not delivering GTu to Russia anymore.

what is so weird about it?
It might get toned down in its final from what we see now, but the mast most likely will retain its height which is not much different from what we see on pr.1144 or pr.1164. But unlike these two, the new model will not be having the penalty of radar units weighting in excess tons in weight.

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The beam reported is 20m which I think is on the lower side. To me the beam is definitely over 20m and probably around 24m?

Need we remind….

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http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?122230-Russian-Navy-Thread-2&p=1990258#post1990258

This purportedly is a destroyer. But it shares many design feutures with the above ‘cruiser’

Those blue containers reminded me of some other pics.
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Indeed, the navy recognition article mentioned a larger design, depicted with 2x Club-K Container Missile Systems

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Pella Shipyard Arctic Patrol Ship

Also during IMDS 2015 maritime defense show, Pella Shipyard based in Leningrad unveiled an Arctic Patrol Ship. No order has been placed yet, but it is worth mentioning because the design of this 6,800 tons / 114 meters long patrol vessel with ice breaking capabilities features a large helipad and space at the stern for two Club-K Container Missile Systems.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2882

I know – in fact, I believe so did the Pr.11780 concept, which would’ve been three times Ivan Rogov’s size. Still doesn’t strike me as all that practical or smart.

Agree :highly_amused:

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It isn’t reliable at all that’s why it has to attack Libya on behalf of Arab league that created high oil prices for EU. Now Qatar did awarded them with Rafale but its for past services and airline slots. . All past customers from UAE and India are dithering on orders and the orders that will come are not as profitable.
and it still cant sell Mistral without Russia permission. No customer will pay for it. and with size of Ruaf increasing it can sink them anywhere in the world as it has Russian technology. when Russia create alternative to Swift system than no one will bank at French banks.

I fully expect Russia to sell weopons/nuclear tech to both sides starting from Iraq-Iran all the way to Egypt and Saudi. this is called high credibility.

Fremm to Morocco, Egypt, Greece…

In the past two decades, DCNS has had considerable success in both reviving old markets and opening new ones. In 1994, DCNS won contracts to sell three Agosta 90B diesel-electric attack submarines (SSKs) to Pakistan. In 1997, DCNS contracted to sell two vessels of its new Scorpène-class to Chile, the second of which was delivered in 2007. [17] Not only was DCNS able to break into HDW’s market (Chile had been employing German Type 209 boats), but more importantly, the French company was able to sell a new submarine design, even though the Chilean Navy had initially issued the tender for a proven submarine class. In 2002, Malaysia ordered two Scorpène units as well, along with an ex-French Navy Agosta boat for training purposes. DCNS has also received orders for several Scorpène-class vessels from both India and Brazil, with substantial technology transfer provisions.

Trust me, when I look into smaller vessel there’s a lot more.

(you did note the smiley?)

Project “Priboy”

– 14,000t displacement
– 165m length
– 25m beam
– max speed: 20 knots
– range: 6000 nautical miles (can remain 60 days at sea)
– airwing: 4-6 x helicopters (Ka-27, Ka-52K)
– 4 x landing craft pr.11770 Serna or 2 x pr.12061 Murena hovercraft
– can transport up to 60 vehicles
– Pantsir-M airdefence system

Seems a different hull (more LPD than LHD)

For either ship, it has LST-style bow doors…. Do they intend to beach a 14k or 24k vessel in a combat zone? Or just in unopposed settings? Beaching capability places certain demands on hullform and draft.

Frigate retirements likely to hamper drug busts at sea

What are the 4,600 t frigate-like National Security Cutters doing?