Wouldn’t it be a shame if an original piece of history is thrown in the bin because of all our hunches…… Maybe the Public records don’t have a copy because the owner has the original.
If he had just made reference to the aircraft letter then that could have been any aircraft from any Squadron. I’ve not read the report but if the aircraft is in the same Squadron as the author then I’d say from my experience of writing aircraft incident signals I’d go for the actual registration.
Probably needs a forensics type chap to date the paper/ ink etc.
Personally I wouldn’t touch it because it is too desirable. 10 years ago i would have probably paid a tenner for it at a car boot sale knowing full well that it was original because no one would be the slightest bit interested in faking it but sadly times have changed.
Yep, just playing devils advocate…. My reasoning behind listing the serial number would be because once safely back on the ground and the facts have been gathered it would have been quit easy to list the serial number if it was from the same Squadron as I’d imagine the author would be familiar with the airframe and probably have even flown it at some stage.
I’d deleted all that because i re-read it and thought i was waffling and it had nothing to do with the original thread….. But it goes to show how much of a need there is in the military to ensure that paper work reflects what needs to be seen and not necessarily whats correct.
Dont know if the mods can re insert what i’d written before deleting???
Sorry for losing the point of the thread but this is what i deleted earlier as it seemed like waffle regarding the accuracy of military documents as having re-read it had nothing to do with the aim of the original thread regarding the originality of the document………………..
Yep, just playing devils advocate…. My reasoning behind listing the serial number would be because once safely back on the ground and the facts have been gathered it would have been quit easy to list the serial number if it was from the same Squadron as I’d imagine the author would be familiar with the airframe and probably have even flown it at some stage.
There is a lot of knowledge on this forum and I enjoy it because of that fact but I’ve been caught out before on other forums by people that seem to be the font of all knowledge and are highly respected but turn out to be complete numpties whose reputations are based purely on the number of posts they have entered. (I RUN THE RISK OF UPSETTING PEOPLE BUT THAT STATEMENT IS NOT AIMED AT ANYONE HERE!!!).
I’d say it is very hard to scrutinise military documents because they are written by a majority of people who would probably find them a complete bind to fill in and a waste of time. Obviously a combat report is something different but I’m sure they run the risk of being beefed up.
A trivial example would be me filling in the RAF Wattisham daily guard report and signing for my hourly security checks the following morning having had an undisturbed kip in one of the cells. To a military historian years later, there is his written signed evidence of what happened when in actual fact it’s a complete load of tosh. Add a few typing errors or wrong times then you instantly have a can of worms…..
Brought for the princely sum of 99p…… One and a half weeks later working sun rise to sunset in rain, wind and snow I’ve finally finished dismantling them. The woodwork is in excellent condition complete with the original stencils. Apparently they originally came from Brayfield??? airfield near Northampton. Does anyone have any info on the field as i’ve never heard of it.
Thanks Chaps, Seems like an interesting location. Dont know why but I’m starting to think US army piper cubs.
Why the ell is the March issue out in January????? Cant see the sense in it. Why not publish on the first of each month?
Would be great to get her air worthy but in an age where no one cares about history i cant see how it is going to be a feasable project. Look at the poor old Vulcan struggling year in year out. The EU not being warbird friendly and no aircraft operator is going to make a living on the back of airshows.
Still on a positive note, we are still lucky to have a few individuals that make there dreams become reality.
Registering and obtaining a licence does not reduce the risk it mearly makes it easier for the powers at be to come and confiscate your collection.
Do you know which type of aircraft employed the Mk IV auto pilot? Lancaster??
I’ve just completed a little experiment and feel a bit happier about instruments, I’ve just placed the Latest NHS emergency services dosimeter in a bad of assorted 10 WW2 cockpit instruments all containing radioactive paint. After 5 hours the reading peak initially at 25 microrem and averaged at 18 microrem throughout the exercise.
After a quick google search i managed to make the information mean something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_X-ray
In the most general sense, N43.17 states that a device can be used for general purpose security screening of humans if the dose to the subject is less than 25 micro Rontgen per examination (25 micro Rontgen = 25 micro Rem = 0.25 micro Sievert) and complies with other requirements of the standard. Twenty-five micro Rem is equal to the amount of background radiation every human is exposed to (from the air and soil) at sea level every 1.5 hours and is also equal to the radiation exposure from cosmic rays when travelling in an airplane at altitude for 2 minutes
More info:
http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q349.html
With my limited knowledge i would read from that information is that we should take care and appreciate the danger of these instruments but not be scared of them, i would happily display a cockpit panel in my spare bedroom or to the public but i certainly would cuddle up to it at night.
N.B: I’m no expert so don’t take that information as gospel!!! And I hope that an official organization will offer sensible guidance and work with collectors.
Ooopss!!!! I better double check, i’m sure after googling the symbols stood for microrems but i’ve never touched the subject before. At a distance of 30cm the reading was ZERO. I’m clueless about the measurments but does this make them more or less lethal and more important is anyone in a space suit going to take my mate away who’s dosemeter i used? Wasn’t that stupid enough to use my own.
It’s now based at RAF Waddington in the flying club hanger…… think they had a falling out or something.
I’d say attitudes are changing, i used to live in Berlin years ago and could never find that much relating to World war two. Went back last year and there now seems to be quite a big tourist trade devoted to it, even saw street information signs with a then and now type photos of marches and flags along the Unter der Linden etc