nJayMI couldn’t agree more – The Press eat companies and people for breakfast
Discussion of known facts and various scenarios is fine considering that the press can come up with wild speculation from time to time. Not to mention other forums that present their full accident report on the same day. I think that most of the time we are well within limits here. 😀
Hi 27vet
I couldn’t agree more – The Press eat companies and people for breakfast. Most of it is unverified sensationalist journalism.
It destroys good companies, people and in some cases countries.
nJayMThanks For Viewing
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Rab5869
Hi rab5869
Happy New Year,
Man with Big Lens in the opinion of 2 WPCs 😀 – excellent compliment
Excellent pics – thanks
nJayMSome early URLs on the same incident
Some early URLs on the same incident –
http://aircrewbuzz.com/2010/12/american-airlines-boeing-757-200-runway.html
And quoting from the last URL above “The airport’s only runway is 6,400 feet long, which Bishop said is a little shorter than normal for airports handling commercial flights. Another airplane went off the end of the runway last month, and such events happen periodically there, he said.”
nJayMI haven’t said you cannot discuss it
We already know all that, nJayM, all we’re doing is discussing it. Nothing wrong with that, this is a discussion forum after all.
Hi PMN
I haven’t said you cannot discuss it, just pointing out that there will be a conclusive and accurate investigative report which will pull all facts together and reveal the full ‘story’.
Please see my mod to the last sentence of my post above purely to suit you
nJayMYes; you paid attention 1st time but would you several times a week ?
I have to admit,I did pay attention for once…. 😀
Hi Loke
Yes; you paid attention 1st time but would you pay the same attention (or find it a complete ‘pain’) several times a week if you were a regular commuter or business traveller?
I agree this portrayal grabs the attention of the passengers but possibly doesn’t stress the absolute need to do things orderly and without any gyrations (to music or otherwise) if there was a real emergency.
All research and post accident investigative reports show that there is near stampede in a real emergency and also shows that keeping ones presence of mind is what eventually pays off for those who survive.
On long haul flights my personal opinion is that a repeat of standard drill particularly re-inforcing the adoption of ‘brace position’ would not be a bad thing just prior to approach to landing.
nJayMCVR, OVR, Met and runway conditions,Tower transcripts & visuals, should reveal facts
The video is hardly conclusive (limitations in visibility from window) and the commentary says so in the second stage.
CVR, OVR, Met and actual runway conditions,Tower transcripts & visuals, should reveal facts along with engineering reports after inspection of the aircraft.
The Captain and First Officer should be able to add the conclusive statements to what they were actually presented with in the cockpit.
I’d rather wait for official findings and since no one was hurt it is at least not an unhappy ending.
nJayMThat’s where the ice for drinks and popcorn comes in
What about the ones that wish to spectate??? aerodoggers ?
“No Standing or participation by spectators (under present laws)” but drinks all round with popcorn for spectators thrown in; which is where the alternative use of the ice in ice bucket comes in if the show is not visible to minors – completely joking of course:D;).
Your role would become un-tenable with most commercial airlines if such nonsense proliferated.
Happy New Year trolleydolly – have a good one.
nJayMOh Oh! a whole new meaning to the use of cargo restraining straps
I wonder how long before they introduce `Cuddle Rooms`…ha, Maybe a `Dungeon` in the cargo hold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Oh! this adds and takes on a whole new meaning to the use of cargo restraining straps.
Wonder which airline has ‘bosses’ with inclinations in that strange direction?:eek:
nJayMWhy not add to that list, blankets, bucket of ice, shades,….
well,I suppose the attendents will be shuffling around in jim jams next with a little torch poking the snorers…at least it will free the toilets of amorous couples LOL.
Hi trolleydolly
Hadn’t thought of the snorers.
Why not add to that list, blankets, bucket of ice (to cool the amorous ones down or on the flip side for drinks all round in the audience – throwing in some popcorn as well :D), shades for those that do not wish to spectate :cool:,
nJayMAs someone’s already said you are just a young lad at 44
In fairness to ANZ, I think they stipulated that couples on the cuddling seats would be subject to the same standards of behaviour as any other place on the aircraft, as SIA did when it introduced its bedrooms on the A380’s.
mrtotty
At 44 you are just a young lad.
Of course as you say there will be normal social standards expected by anyone on any flight and special additional ones to cover the skycouch seat configurations.
If not you have a whole new in flight movie soap series of ‘The Mile High Club’.
When that happens the cabin crew can hand out blankets as a first resort or simply insist that decency prevails, hand out shades to those affected 😎 or find a bucket of ice…… 😀
You can of course reserve a seat that isn’t in the middle section of the skycouch configuration and avoid any risk.
nJayM27vet – don’t even go there – MO’L may be using that duff calculator again
Would Ryanair opt for stand up cuddle space then?
Hi 27vet
Don’t even go there – MO’L may be using that duff ‘wind up’ calculator again that he counts racehorses with.
Wouldn’t put it past him to have a single ‘lean to’ and try to have 4/5 standing shoulder to shoulder where normally three would sit abreast in 3 conventional seats.
Maybe he’ll drown in a VAT of alcohol this New Year and do the world a favour.
Have a good New Year when it arrives.
nJayMHaneda is supposedly back since Oct 2010 handling International Traffic
Haneda with 1931 origins was Japan’s International Airport, until 1978 when Narita took over as Japan’s International airport, but it seems Haneda is back since October 2010 as handling some International Traffic and not purely domestic traffic.
Haneda has great nostalgia for me as with my parents as a 15 month old baby I flew B.O.A.C. Argonaut – over night stop in Hong Kong to Haneda. My parents were part of an UN delegation visiting Japan.
Amazingly colourful liveries – great shots – thanks
nJayMRichard Branson still has control …..
I may be a little out of date, but recall that Branson sold a controlling interest (something like 48% IIRC) in VA to Singapore Airlines some years ago.
It would be interesting to see the outcome of mixing the 2 cultures, as AA are at the very low end of the market, whereas VA are at the opposite end. 🙂
Richard Branson still has control “……..has a 51 percent stake in the airline he founded in 1984.” to quote from http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-53786020101226?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews (opening item in this thread)
If Singapore Airlines has 49% in VA also in the same Reuters news report, the question is what share is Air Asia attempting to acquire ?
The same report states that AirAsia is attempting a “takeover bid” – this implies but isn’t a fact as yet, that AirAsia are or will acquire a stake to actually take control of VA.
The big dividing line is the magic figure of 50% to take control although anyone with 49% has great influence in all corporate decisions but can be outvoted on the Board.
The bigger culture and political mix will be if AirAsia buy out Branson’s 51% and Singapore Airlines do not sell their 49% stake. Singapore Airlines is extremely high end standards.
nJayMIs Branson in the selling mood ?
Is Branson in the selling mood?
Maybe as his new baby to my knowledge is Virgin Galactic http://www.virgingalactic.com/
Why AirAsia, what about “Singapore Airlines paid 600 million pounds for a 49 percent stake in Virgin Atlantic in 2000″.
nJayMBoeing Resumes 787 Flight Testing – ‘Santa’ arrived for fans of the Plastic Pig
Boeing Resumes 787 Flight Testing – ‘Santa’ arrived for fans of the Plastic Pig
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1571
News Release Issued: December 23, 2010 3:22 PM EST
Boeing Resumes 787 Flight Testing
– Interim solution verified through extensive testing
– Schedule assessment expected to conclude in January
EVERETT, Wash., Dec. 23, 2010 /PRNewswire/ — Boeing (NYSE: BA) will resume flight test activities on the 787 Dreamliner later today. The company has installed an interim version of updated power distribution system software and conducted a rigorous set of reviews to confirm the flight readiness of ZA004, the first of the six flight test airplanes that will return to flight.
“Initially, we will resume a series of Boeing tests that remain to be completed in the flight test program. That testing will be followed later by a resumption of certification testing,” said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program. Today’s testing will include an intentional deployment of the Ram Air Turbine (RAT), which is a small turbine that is deployed when back-up power is required.
Boeing and Hamilton Sundstrand completed testing of the interim software updates earlier this week. Verification of the system included laboratory testing of standalone components, integration testing with other systems, flight simulator testing and ground-based testing on a flight test airplane.
In the last several weeks, the company continued ground testing as part of the certification program. Additional ground testing will be done by the company on the production version of the airplane to further verify performance of the changes being made.
“As we return to flight test and determine the pace of that activity, we remain focused on developing a new program schedule,” Fancher added. “We expect to complete our assessment of the program schedule in January.”
Flight testing of the 787 was suspended last month following an in-flight electrical incident on a test flight in Laredo, Texas.
Contact:
Lori Gunter
787 Communications office
+1 206-931-5919
SOURCE Boeing
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