Hi TJ

Great shots of the heroic Vimy and her pilots.

From the grandstand it did not look to me like it was only the wind that contributed to the vimy’s misfortunes as shortly afterwards the sky was full of a multitude of replica First World War aircraft doing ‘dogfights’ all over the Farnborough skies, but of course they did not take off or land at Farnborough.

For the sake of the pilot of the Vimy I am glad he/she stayed on tera firma that day. And as you rightly say avoided ploughing into the crowd.

I just found these 3 (maybe more) YouTube URLS of the Vimy in trouble –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf-DI…eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WVi…eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I3Wy…eature=related

I am sure we shall see it safely airborne in the near future.

Cheers

Jay

Thank you Jay and Teej.

Jay, I got a bit worried about the Vimy. It had come partly off the runway nearside almost in front of us and looked like it was about to go in to a concentric turn.
I got a shot of it as it was going wobbly but there was a security guard right in front of me at the critical point and anyway I was about to decide my next move.

Excellent efforts by the pilot to control and turn it away and bring it to a safe halt.

Teej, oddly enough the Hunter was probably the closest jet aircraft to come toward the crowd line on Saturday.

Martin

Hi Martin

I have been a pilot myself and the Vimy looked like it got into very serious trouble on Saturday and it was good fortune that it did not get airborne, as there may have been a disaster.

It looked in my humble opinion like the engines weren’t in sync with regards actual take off ‘revs’ hence causing what looked like a near concentric turn. Unfortunately I couldn’t see the rudder clearly to see the position it was in when the problem occurred.

From the grandstand it did not look to me like it was only the wind that contributed to the vimy’s misfortunes as shortly afterwards the sky was full of a multitude of replica First World War aircraft doing ‘dogfights’ all over the Farnborough skies, but of course they did not take off or land at Farnborough.

For the sake of the pilot of the Vimy I am glad he/she stayed on tera firma that day.

I just found these 3 (maybe more) YouTube URLS of the Vimy in trouble –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf-DI4xibzE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WVi2fXRtc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I3WyF-NlbA&feature=related

I am sure we shall see it safely airborne in the near future.

By any chance did you get any shots of the Apache doing its ‘facing’ crowd line ‘stuff’?
That is some ‘weapons base’ technology.

TJ

I was in the Grandstand on Saturday and did the Halls on Sunday. Great weather apart from a few spits and spots on Saturday.

Pity the Vickers Vimy did not make it into the air on Saturday but due to cross winds aborted a take off.

These pics do the Vulcan proud.

As usual superb quality pics and demonstrating a great skill at getting things at their best angles.

Today is the 8th anniversary of the Gonesse disaster – Concorde

8 years ago today, on July 25, 2000, an Air France Aérospatiale Concorde crashed on takeoff from Paris, France. All 109 passengers and crew aboard, along with 5 people on the ground, were killed.
http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/afsst/2.shtml
Sadly the Concorde will never fly again and any investigation will not reverse this decision.
Let’s remember the Concorde with pride and pay our respects to the dead in that crash

PMN, A Spalding and Cking are perfectly correct.

In an emergency/malfunction due to sudden cabin de-presurarisation the door may be with some difficulty opened while in flight by a human/humans but still highly unlikely. If partially opened it would cause further serious cabin pressure irregularities.

What is evident is that alcohol or no alcohol, passengers have strict rules and guidelines to adhere to in what they can do and cannot do on commercial airliners.In the reported incident the passenger was in complete violation of these rules and laws.

Normally only inflight cabin crew would be permitted to open these doors from the inside unless there is as stated a serious emergency including crash landing where in the unlikely situation of a complete flight crew wipe out; then passenegers would be on their own to try to save their own and others lives by attempting to open these doors.

Addendum:
Interestingly on a recent Airbus 319 flight BA provided an in flight video of the detailed instructions on how pasengers could following an emergency open the doors and which ones were most suitable if a landing on water was the case. With a wry silent smile I imagined an accompamying disclaimer statement which could read “Doors to be operated by passengers only if sober and when aircraft is not in normal flight.”

Yup. The cabin is pressurised to between 8 and 9psi to simulate an artificial altitude of around 8000 feet. 8 pounds per square inch on a door measuring maybe 3.5 feet by 6.2 feet means there’s a force of around 11.3 tons holding it in place; roughly the same as a double decker bus. It ain’t moving. 🙂

Paul

HAHA since when have FCA operated B747’s? 😎

Also, isn’t it physically impossible to open a door inflight becuase of the pressure difference?

PMN, A Spalding and Cking are perfectly correct.

In an emergency/malfunction due to sudden cabin de-presurarisation the door may be with some difficulty opened while in flight by a human/humans but still highly unlikely. If partially opened it would cause further serious cabin pressure irregularities.

What is evident is that alcohol or no alcohol, passengers have strict rules and guidelines to adhere to in what they can do and cannot do on commercial airliners.In the reported incident the passenger was in complete violation of these rules and laws.

Normally only inflight cabin crew would be permitted to open these doors from the inside unless there is as stated a serious emergency including crash landing where in the unlikely situation of a complete flight crew wipe out; then passenegers would be on their own to try to save their own and others lives by attempting to open these doors.

Maybe the issue was not to perfect a supersonic airliner, but to run a profitable aircraft production company.

The Concord was only sold heavily subsidised and would never had seen airline service, if not for that.

Granted, thats no reason to ban it from US airspace, or for neglecting is as a display item. Nevertheless, as mentioned above, its in temporary storage while its museum is undergoing renovation.

USS Intrepid takes pretty good care of their display, so I’m sure G-BOAD will have a long and happy retirement.

BTW the Duxford Concord is not in great condition either.

I am sure the Americans have no wish to be deliberately ignorant about the neglect of G-BOAD, but there may be ‘purse strings’ that are tight and demands from other more pressing projects.

Possibly if interest can be raised amongst some approved volunteers ‘across the pond’ they can at least as an interim measure start keeping G-BOAD clean on a monthly basis.

The nose cone is a bigger problem and if there is no spare one I am sure one can be made ‘at a price’.

It’s back where I started money USD lot’s of it.