Hi Threespool

Hi Threespool

No I have read and re read much of what is written in the serious posts.

None of us have absolute answers but can identify the decline post Second World War II with successive weak governments and the PC brigade including the Mary Whitehouse era.

Parents have children wanted or unwanted. If the choice is not to have an abortion then they must care for that child as a minor not as a cast off for society to deal with. It may be that it is one parent that does the caring. Yes maybe poor but that does not make the quality of values imparted different from a wealthier parent. A child or minor cannot make value judgements and parent/s can by sensible upbringing, nurturing and punishing where necessary bring a sense of right and wrong to bear. Ensuring the child knows that neighbours good or bad are neighbours, the garden if it exists must be kept clean and tidy, the street must be kept clean, cars must be left alone and not vandalised, bus stops aren’t to be made in to works of graffiti artworks and being at all times within a parent’s control as a minor is absolutely necessary.

School attendance, punctuality, no flimsy excuses for truancy and any punishment the school brings about must be accepted. Homework however much it may be a bug bear must be attempted or completed. Sleeping at night in readiness for school is also helpful. While at school to ensure books and prep are done. Teachers aren’t jokes (well some are even in my day but most aren’t) but that isn’t a reason to throw that subject out of the window. Teachers even if they are jokes have to be respected as humans who are paid for being qualified to teach. Teachers may instil punishment and these are their rights provided the punishment isn’t life threatening or psychologically devastating.
School uniforms however humble or simple are not to be laughed at. The contrast in uniforms at the good state schools, the private schools and those state schools that allow anything in the form of dress are hugely varied in my area. It does not have to be a posh blazer and expensive uniform but being tidy and adherence to a dress code at school is early learning and good formative behaviour patterns. School assembly in the morning where class monitors and prefects (hah ha say the majority – what are they?) identify the absentees/latecomers and initially it is a peer to peer admonishing or punishment (lines, recitation, or press ups in gym or playing field). If the problem persists or becomes chronic or endemic then the matter is passed on to teachers/head.

Police aren’t to be feared but are in the main the guardians of civil law. They must at all times be respected and adherence to advice or instructions given by them must be upheld. Parents and teachers must instil confidence in the Police and school visits by Community Police must be something the children participate in.

Unfortunately the breakdown has been generations of some parents taking a nonchalant attitude of take all from the state and give nothing not even a days work. Teachers who hide behind PCness, extreme attitudes and just sheer laziness to do the job they are trained, qualified and paid to do.

Unionised madness. And politicians becoming equally spineless and corrupt.

Until this sorts out at all stages there is very little sitting these miscreants in therapy groups etc is going to do. Psychiatric nurses, social workers and do gooder psychologists earn a lot (including in some cases enhanced pay rates for being exposed to dangerous people) all sit around and tell these nutters to air their grievances and “let’s all share it and discuss it “. What in heaven’s name is going on – these nutters hardly talk to anyone (most to themselves probably) and would they be able to have a rational discussion – I think not.

Empower employers and the forces to take these miscreants on board and get them to work and if sentenced by courts to be on no pay but simply board, lodging and clothing.
If general teenagers then the plan to bring in National Service but essentially it must be longer than 6 weeks. Then there is a chance that some of the years of bad management by parents, teachers and politicians may rub off and the end product may be road tested in society again.

We all have a need to not just criticise but to stand behind the government – Right wing though it may seem and say to the Liberals and Lefties – “enough is enough this is an island nation and it has a history and pride to uphold and let’s quit the PC and left wing crap now.”

Hi Threespool you are a technically competent individual

Hi Threespool you are a technically competent individual, please do not be despondent.

As the Post Mortem (mostly technical) including plotting maps (a simple one is below originally posted by me Post #432 http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=111045&page=15 )
unfolds it will be seen that this was not opportunistic crime it was cold, pre meditated and wanten destruction with a deliberate intent to cause havoc and loot.

If these shops and businesses close as a result of the disasters they have faced who loses their jobs – not the wealthy but people who are working for low to average salaries/wages; is that a social right of these miscreants to rob other ordinary people of their income?

The technology has been available for yonks and is all in place to monitor exactly the network traffic patterns of mobiles (text messaging), Twitter, Facebook and emails. This is I hope being done in and around the areas of concentrated looting. The search criteria are simple to set once you have some gang leader’s numbers.

It isn’t rocket science it’s simple network monitoring including location of sending and receiving devices something which you can fully grasp.

The network traffic pattern maps of the miscreants and some yet to be caught (will be soon) will reveal a lot and although not the only evidence required to convict these reprobates in court but is technically supportive.

Hence yes the sentences are getting severe as it is not petty crime we are now talking about but gang leader and criminal lead attacks on society.

It can get better with time but for the moment the saner part of society must show a Zero Tolerance approach to these a.seholes.

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How about a little mirth for a mo?

How about a little mirth for a mo?

Who remembers the film Death Race 2000 – a cult film:)

Well older and sane not necessarily ‘geriatrics’ (bad PC word) lost their businesses, cars and homes in the recent mayhem and destruction.

What if we lined up these miscreants and had a race across the country stopping only short of the Scottish Border (1st Minister will have built a wall by then) and the object of the race was not just speed but how many terminal casualties of these miscreants each driver can achieve without losing time.

The sane older generation get their own back (reverse of Death Race 2000);)

End of mirth.

You mean the guy with the chequered flag – well he deserved it

Learning to drive was easy for you two. That guy walking in front waving the flag did the hard work 🙂

You mean the guy with the chequered flag – well he deserved it.:D Fancy jumping in front of an F1 car at the finish line.:)

DrP – just relax and yes keep close to a good driving instructor

DrP – just relax and yes keep close to a good driving instructor.

Yet additionally finding someone who has no fear in being with you as a licensed driver while you have your L plates on is the best way to practice. This licensed driver should be cool and not instil nervousness in you.

Stay cool, relaxed and keep your hands on the wheel while always having your left eye side glance at what’s in your rear view mirror (unless you require to show the instructor / examiner by deliberate movement of head for some tests) while learning to pan both wing mirrors, keeping your eyes firmly in front, panning the dash for speed/revs and not having to look at your gear lever to know which gear you are in. Also establish for a regular vehicle the biting point of your clutch and all this will if you practice come naturally as you get more experienced. Knowing without looking at where steering column stalk controls are and essential switches including hazard warning lights is always useful.

Be confident as you get experienced but not over confident to upset your instructor or examiner.:)

Who knows you may even some day in the future go and pass your Advanced Driving Test and as I suggested become a pilot too.:D

Kev35 – I have added a clarifier and the deterrent is what is there

Kev35 –
I have added a clarifier and the deterrent is what is there in Police in other EU states carrying a pistol minimum.

Granted they have had riots in France as you correctly quote in France but during non Conservative regimes.

Well I am not the only one advocating the Police carrying arms in riots and there is also recent press on Bill Bratten being brought in from the US and they are very heavily armed.

IMO Sure there will be deaths but so be it if cretin like people go on socially destructive rampages with the intent of damaging property and stealing goods.

IMO There is no purpose in trying to understand these cretins as they are always one step ahead (in badness) of any normal psychological pattern of behaviour. They understand the firearm and noose (noose for crimes against the state, ie terrorism) and nothing in words is comprehended by them.

There are no go areas in many cities in UK Scotland included where there are more firearms of all types carried by hoodlums than can be imagined.:dev2:

I have added a clarifier – my bad in forgetting originally

Jay – the EU doesn’t have a police force – yet!! Thank God!

I have added a clarifier – my bad in forgetting originally.
Europol is slow and bad enough.

There is a well known secret which your instructor must tell you

Parallel parking by sounds of it, here in UK it’s parking behind a car along a pavement in ideally no more than 4 manoeuvres (steering wheel 360 left 360 right, one and a half right and one and a half left). Must be within two car spaces. Annoying as hell!

Hi DrPepper
There is a well known secret which your instructor must tell you. You drive and stop parallel in front of space but safely clear of their driver’s side (assuming parked car is facing direction of traffic on left side of road along pavement). Stay exactly parallel, unhook seat belt if necessary (remember to re hook seat belt just for getting your body twisted round – and please ask instructor if this is okay) and look back through rear window while still holding steering. Initially gently reverse while pointing your car looking through centre of rear window at left headlight of car behind free space. Then start correcting it into the correct position while reversing without hitting curb or rear bumper of your car against front bumper of car behind. Then usually with one manoeuvre of steering correct forward front aspect of your car. That may be all or a simple spacing as a third manoeuvre leaving you one spare manoeuvre according to the test for good measure.

What some people do wrong in practising is – using a desolate stretch of road they put marks in chalk on road (at right angles to pavement) where front and back bumpers of cars already parked are. This is not a practical or real simulation. Get out into residential streets during the day where heavy traffic is unlikely (watch out for kids though) and practice to your hearts content. Do not use friends standing on pavements to guide you either as they will not be there at the test.

Keep going and as Pete has already said Practice, Practice, Practice.:)