That’s my Boeing – steady as a rock and will still be there when I pop my clogs.

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Obviously the airline equivalent to the RAC or AA does not exist over in those parts.

Maybe a few Ladas (to pull) and a few chains or ships’ heavy mooring ropes may have been an alternative method. :highly_amused:

Dinosaurs always become extinct rapidly.

They will make good static “hotels” (with some internal mods) in some locations for ex Airbus employees.

Unlike the more than likely fiction/ likely theories in the books by authors making more than a ‘killing’ in proceeds these reports are telling of the anguish of those left in the complete ‘dark’.

My heart and I am sure the hearts of many of you on this forum will go out to these people left in a complete psychological mire due to the lack of real evidence ie as yet a complete aircraft intact or as debris.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11078450/MH370-After-six-months-of-limbo-families-of-missing-passengers-are-increasingly-angry.html

“MH370: After six months of limbo, families of missing passengers are increasingly angry

China is making life difficult for grieving relatives still desperate for news of Malaysia Airlines plane that vanished

Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday 61-year-old Dai Shuqin takes a two-hour bus trip to a drab biscuit-coloured building on the northern outskirts of Beijing.

For six months she has been trapped in limbo, sleep-deprived and with little appetite, since three generations of her sister’s family vanished on board Flight MH370.

So she returns again and again to this building, a “support centre” that was set up in May after Malaysia Airlines stopped paying for the families to stay in the Lido Hotel in the city centre.

Dozens of other relatives in China have fallen into the same weekly routine, drawn to this focal point for their grief.

Each time they are asked to fill out forms with their names and the names of their loved ones. In a box underneath, they can write questions which will never be answered.

In a cruel twist, the centre is directly beneath the flight path of Beijing airport. As they sit together waiting for news, they have to listen to planes roaring overhead every few seconds.

“Sometimes there are 100 of us in there,” said Ms Dai. “But the room is small and they refuse to provide any water or food. Although it has been a hot summer only the staff offices are air-conditioned.

“They never answer any questions. Every time they say the same thing: ‘We are searching really hard. We are more anxious than you. The Chinese government has put a lot of effort into it.’

“They say it every time. It drives us crazy, literally crazy. Sometimes the families think they are going to break down.”

As the saga of Flight MH370 drags on, the relatives have become at best a nuisance and at worst a threat to the brittle patina of “social stability” that the Communist party insists upon.

So the centre is carefully watched. As we approached it one day last week, security guards rushed to block the entrance and a senior policeman in plain clothes emerged to escort us from the surrounding industrial park.

“They put the support centre out here, in the middle of nowhere, so that our voices could not be heard,” said Ms Dai. “And it is only open Monday to Friday during working hours, so anyone with a job cannot come.”
Anyone who fails to keep a close grip on their emotions faces the wrath of the authorities, she added.

“Once a woman and her father-in-law unfurled a protest banner. But afterwards when the woman went to fetch something from her car, plain clothes policemen snatched her away. Her father-in-law was followed into the bathroom, seized and taken away. Later, when we called the police, they said they had been detained,” she said.

On another occasion, at the beginning of July, a group of relatives who had travelled to Beijing from the countryside were arrested for trying to sleep at the centre.

“These people were farmers. Many of them stopped working after MH370 disappeared and sold their land for money. When they came to the support centre they asked if they could stay to save on their costs. But the police arrested them. They even dragged a six-year-old kid from his father and threw him in the back of the police van,” said Ms Dai.

Other relatives said they shot videos of the arrests on their mobile phones, but that the footage mysteriously disappeared from their phones a few hours later.

“All the families who go to the centre now are scared. Every time before I go I tell my family that if they cannot reach me when they call it means I am in trouble. The others all do the same thing.”

The relatives are keen to mark, on September 8, the six months since the disappearance of the plane. But they have been unable so far to find a venue brave enough to host them.

“All the family members would say the situation now is worse,” said Jack Song, whose sister Song Chunling was on board MH370.

“It was very sad when we were in the hotel and everyone cried, but at least we could help each other and we formed different groups, a negotiating group, a technical study group, a group to deal with the media and so on. We supported each other.

“Now everyone lives a long way away and there are no channels for them to get any information. Without any information, you feel very helpless,” he added.

Chat groups have sprung up on Chinese social media. Instead of the support centre, Mr Song is trapped by his habit of endlessly checking his mobile phone for updates.

“I cannot focus on anything else,” he said. “I look at my WeChat account every few minutes. Just in the two hours we have been talking, there have been 35 new messages from relatives.”

With no conclusive evidence of the plane’s demise, most of the Chinese relatives will not openly say that their loved ones are dead, even if they accept there is little hope.

The Malaysian authorities, they point out, have not even released the closed circuit television footage of passengers boarding the plane, allowing many to desperately cling on to the hope that somehow their relatives were not on board.

Most are also furious at the conduct of Malaysia and Malaysia Airlines, who they say have treated them with little respect and refused to release key information that would help them come to terms with their loss.

They also wonder why Boeing and Inmarsat, the satellite company whose information has been key to the effort to track the plane’s movements, have not directly opened up their data to the public.

“If you want to work out where the plane is, you need to know the wind speed, the speed of the plane and the position of the satellite,” said Jiang Hui, a 41-year-old telecommunications engineer whose mother was on board. “They have not released any of that data to us. And they have not shared the algorithm they used for their analysis

“I cannot understand why they are so reluctant to share. The way that the Malaysian government has delayed everything from the very beginning and made everything chaotic is very difficult for me to understand. It makes me think there is something going on behind the scenes, but I do not know what.”

Martin Dolan, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) chief who is heading the search, said he understood the scepticism but insisted that investigators were trying to be as transparent as possible with the families.

“Our message to them is that a range of world experts is working together with a single focus of finding this aircraft and solving the mystery of its disappearance. They should have confidence in the work that is being done because it is being done meticulously and we are progressively publishing the results of that work so that other experts can test it and debate it and form views about it.

“We are not trying to hide anything. It is just that we do not want to publish things until we have done the work and therefore have something we are confident in. We are trying to be as open as we can.”

The ATSB put out a 58-page report on June 26 on its website and updated it on Aug 18.

Mr Song said the families would keep petitioning the companies until there was some resolution. “People feel angry and helpless. At least two or three of the elderly relatives have passed away. Lots of the passengers were the breadwinners for their families, so there are economic problems.

“MH370 changed my life completely, and the lives of all of the relatives. Many are now on the verge of collapse.” “

The above is one of many possible causes but wait – yet another book is out.

I saw it with my own eyes in a local bookshop – “Flight MH370 The Mystery” by Nigel Cawthorne.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10839030/MH370-authors-claims-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-accidentally-shot-down-angers-victim.html

Never mind batteries the said author claims that initially the MA authorities stated on the cargo manifest that the plane was carrying mangosteens and no batteries. (Purple/brown hard outer with white edible bulbs and some large seeds)

Also print output of last dialogue by flight crew with ATC is in book. There too the author conjectures that it was an unusual way (not his usual) the first officer made his last transmission.

This is highly irregular/irresponsible authoring with no hard facts of the aircraft location (intact/debris).

The anguished people waiting for news of what actually happened look as if they will have a tortuous and long time waiting for the aircraft to be found.