Condolences to those bereaved RIP to those lost

Condolences to those bereaved RIP to those lost.
It will be technically interesting to see what the final investigation report says as it was a B747. Sad set of events in all.

Facts from Korean Air Routine flight scheds.

Facts from Korean Air Routine flight scheds.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=korean+air+KE701
KE701 ETA at NRT 11:30 hrs

http://kr.koreanair.com/main/service/inflight/equipment/inflightService.aspx?lang=eng&rgn=eu

KE702 ETD from NRT 13:00 hrs

1.5 hour turnaround routinely (daily)

add 1 hour from news report makes 2.5 hours on the ground following engine cowling/pod contact with the ground – Great work – magicians obviously:rolleyes:

I am no Airbus engineer and am not capable of inspecting the aircraft for safety.

Simple laws of physics apply even to the modern structures of an A380 (CRFB and other materials).

Outer Starboard engine pod (damage visible on cowling) makes contact with ground while A380 is making a unorthodox landing in high cross winds at NRT. Yes it’s seconds worth of contact but unlike the landing gear an engine pod and its mounting structures to the starboard wing are NOT designed to absorb even such momentary shocks (to my humble knowledge).
The contact energy distributed would have gone into the ground and through the engine pod/cowling to wherever it was finally absorbed. The accompanying forces that resulted could have affected the entire structure and at NRT unless they had all the tools and skills of a complete A380 assembly plant how can they be sure of the possible hidden structural damage caused?

Does anyone know if the A380 was at Seoul on its return as KE702 held until Airbus cleared the problem ?

Not that I care as mentioned earlier as I am unlikely to fly Korean Air but that aircraft reg HL7611 serial 0035 could move on in the future without a full inspection/disassembly of the complete engine mount.

It’s in the interests of Airbus that I voice these concerns as it’s their reputation of their current flagship model that will be possibly at stake if possible damage is not cleared.

You’ll see from this current RAF/MOD web page that there should be 3 Sqdns

Hi Stavid
You’ll see from this current RAF/MOD web page that there should be 3 Sqns at Leuchars but so far only 6 Squadron has stood up.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/6squadron.cfm

“….On Monday 6 September 2010, Number 6 Squadron, the first Typhoon fighter squadron in Scotland, officially stood up at Royal Air Force Leuchars.

The Typhoon is the RAF’s state of the art multi-role combat aircraft that entered operational service in 2007. The occasion was marked with a ceremony which involved the presentation of the Squadron’s Standard to the Officer Commanding.

On 11 September the Squadron’s Standard was paraded for the Chief of the Air Staff, accompanied by an iconic flypast, to mark the beginning of the RAF Leuchars Airshow and celebrate the reformation of the Squadron.

Number 6 Squadron will be the first of three Typhoon squadrons planned to be based at RAF Leuchars. The Squadron will continue to build up and train over the next few months and will ultimately consist of approximately 200 people; many of whom are originally from Scotland. The Squadron will take over responsibility for providing the northern element of the Quick Reaction Alert force in March 2011, providing aircraft and crews on high alert to scramble and intercept unidentified aircraft approaching UK airspace.”

To my understanding the aircraft 6 Squadron got are all factory fresh Tranche 2 FGR.4s.

The other two Leuchars Sqns will probably also stand up as further Tranche 2 deliveries progress. The decision of Sqn Numbers for these two has not yet been made, likely to be two from 25, 43 and 111.

Shall dig some more.

Pistonrob go check out DrPepper’s thread on Gen Discussion

Pistonrob go check out DrPepper’s thread on Gen Discussion:D

Accurate figures from Boeing on all commercial aircraft due at end of July/early Aug

Accurate (regular) figures from Boeing on all commercial aircraft due again at the end of July/early Aug

I must try to get a similar accurate figures for backlog on each model (like the recent FT report with charts – but sadly not official Boeing or Airbus sources) and see if I can produce charts of actual production against backlog.;)

I (personal opinion) feel that unless Airlines on confirmed orders (ahead of AA on the list) change models or get to near Chapter 11 (or equivalent/sadly go bust – may happen – oil prices:mad:) that AA will be waiting a long long time.:eek:

Slow out of the starting gate as I commented previously.:rolleyes:

Press release 25 July 2011 … 3rd interim report on 29 July 2011

http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/flight.af.447/pressrelease25july2011.en.php
Press release 25 July 2011
The third BEA Interim Report will be published on Friday 29 July 2011. This report will present the exact circumstances of the accident with an initial analysis and some new findings based on the data recovered from the flight recorders.

At the same time, a press briefing will be organised at the BEA at 14 h 30.

Accreditation: journalists who wish to attend this press briefing must confirm their presence by the evening of Wednesday 27 July, preferably by email to [email]martine.delbono@bea-fr.org[/email] or [email]valerie.briol@bea-fr.org[/email]

Media contact: Martine Del Bono – +331 4992 7267 – [email]martine.delbono@bea-fr.org[/email]

Hi Roberto do the multiple Eeks mean good or bad

Hi Roberto do the multiple Eeks mean good or bad (in your opinion)?