I agree with you on that mrmalaya. That is one beautiful bird that Deino has posted. A real Bird of Prey.
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I don’t think I would revise what I have said. But now that Gen. Rick Hillier is out, and our commitment is coming to a close with a 2011 pullout. I can see why the promises are starting to recede.
But is hard with any minority Gov’t be it Conservatives, Liberal, NDP, to put something through when the opposition do what the name sake means. They oppose everything, be it good or bad.
I saw in the last AFM magazine that our first Herc was rolled out. And I do believe we purchased 17 of them. And with our C-17 we could still lend our transports out for our commitment to UN obligations.
And just because we are pulling out of Afgan… Does not mean we will not be back.
Nice to meet you Saganuay
90inFIRST thanks for the pictures…… Those are indeed ugly!
As I am Canadian, I still have ties to king (Queen) and country…. My Grandma is a British war bride…
That American design is just as ugly as the BAE designs. Why they have an island in the middle doesn’t make sense to me.
I wish Canada didn’t get rid of carrier operations.. It’s nice being able to support our allies and to make full contributions to our UN obligations. And have our own air support when needed.
Thanks for the info Bager1968.
90inFIRST I do really like this version for the QE’s, Although the middle elevator would probably be restricted by head room for types of aircraft brought up.
to each, his own! I thought it was a nice design.
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Would the flight deck size of the CVA-01 permit the landing of an F-14?
I know the midways had to fly F-4’s because the F-14 was considered too heavy for operations on that ship class. Would the same apply to the CVA-01’s?
Regarding the QE’s, there was two proposals for ship designs. Bae and I think Vickers which won the contract. Didn’t the BAE design have an island and cat walk to a main mast with a third deck edge elevator underneath. I always liked that one more than the current guise.
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A lot of countries (Britian- Mk.4, Germany Mk.5/6 to name a few) flew Canadian built sabres. I think this was more of the U.S. giving us some production run through mutual aid to get cash inflow and to keep some technology in Canada. It was the same with the F-104, F-5A.
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I don’t think Canada has been good at marketing anything. Just look at the arrow. If we tried selling it harder it might have been in service with us…
I think it was at the farnborough (sp?) airshow that a pilot (and I don’t know if it was Canadian) put the clunk through it’s paces. A lot of people were impressed with how nimble it could actually be. I think that resulted in the Belgian order.
But too many countries were building interceptors that were faster with close to the same range on one engine and swept wings. Kind of looks more enticing than the clunk right there.
The U.S. were looking for an aircraft for the interdictor missions over the ho chi minh trail, but needed something with longer legs.
Hope this helps a little
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I agree with pretty much everything you said Colombamike. We won’t get new destroyers per say. And unfortunately it will come down to one type of vessel.
What I meant by in house was that it is one of the few defence systems still made by Canadians for Canadians. I think we got some technical help from the yanks but it was our design.
The Athabaskans are being used as sea control and command ships. I think a version of Denmarks Absalon would be perfect. We do a lot of humanitarian relief work and they would be handy for that as well.
I would like to see our role expand. We are fully integrated into American battle groups. I would also like to see us do the same with European groups. With all the downsizing going on. British and french carrier groups might need a coalition of ships to protect their carriers.
I can’t see Canada buying them. We have a proud tradition of wearing our equipment out before looking into replacing it. The Halifax class will soldier on for a long while yet. We need to replace our Athabaskan class destroyers first. And from what I heard it will be an enlarged Halifax version.
Most contries are making stealthier boats. I wish we would follow the trend. But atleast our boats are built in house.
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Sorry for hijacking this thread. But I remember a company making a version of the T-33 with podded engines like the A-10. Does anyone have any info or pictures of this aircraft?
I always thought it was an attractive and a cheap way for smaller air arms to acquire an aircraft to replace A-37’s and sort of do what the A-10 was built for.
Though I don’t know how many stores it would be capable of holding or manuverability at low altitudes/ speeds.
Thanks
Found this video on youtube and thought I would share it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QprQcfr45fk
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Unfortunately I don’t. I read it in a book about Blackburn aircraft at my public library. They did have a fancy three way drawing that I photocopied. This was many years ago.
Wow with what I just wrote there, I have no credibility. I will try and scour the internet and see what I can come up with.
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After the cancellation of the Avro Arrow, Blackburn did drawings of a proposed fighter variant of the Buccaneer. And presented it to Canada.
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For me I would definately have to say the Viggen. We were making the arrow at the time the Draken was coming into service, So being Canadian you know where my loyalties are.
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