Well your opinion as i say. It isn’t a mediocore fighter, it’s one of the best aircraft in aviation, and it’s becoming a classic navy fighter. Navy and Australian pilots have faith in what it does. Great systems and sensors in the US. Most advanced Navy fighter.
Australia and the US Navy will use the Hornet until 2030-2040, If i guess right.
I think they buy the Eagle beacuse it’s faster able to intercept airspaces. Reasons why the Super is losing beacuse it’s lower top speed and acceleration takes time while most fighters are faster and accelerate faster than the Bug. If the Block III upgardes are available, then the contenders may consider buying a pack of Super Bugs. They might choose the EPE Engines first to improve performance. The Bug is in the Brasil, Canada and Malysa competition
And the bolded parts are your opinion!
The bug was in the other competitions as well….
So it’s a mediocre aircraft? Nothing new or fancy? How about avionics and systems? That’s not mediocre at all, (not being an excuseable idiot). But it shares far more preferable avionics better HOTAS and many things. Though its the navy’s primary fighter. I don’t see nothing mediocre in the Super. But it’s your opinion i guess 😉
But meaning superior Air superiority fighter is that we’re saying it’s a great A2A fighter for the Navy with capable avionics, systems and how it works in A2A. The Super Hornet isn’t America’s #1 air superiority fighter while the Raptor is americas fleet defense fighter for the whole US and USAF. The Super Hornet is the Navy’s primary air superiority fighter (Meaning that to defend the fleet threats) while it’s a Multi-mission fighter to do many roles in the Navy inventory. But if you don’t like the word “superior” than we’ll at least call the super hornets secondary role (which is air-to-air) a great A2A fighter.
Many aircraft from varied nations have just as good if not better avionics. I think it’s mediocre compared with whats out there today. In the middle of the pack.
You are right, the super hornet is the navy’s primary fleet defence fighter. There is no other choice at the moment. It does both fleet defence and attack missions well.
If it is such a great A2A fighter, how come the countries that buy American (South Korea, Singapore, Japan, Saudia Arabia, to name a few) are buying the more expensive eagle?
Before you bring up Australia, note that it was originally only a stop gap until the F-35 came on board. The U.S. Navy was suppose to buy them back.
And this is why growler asks this question alot, please respect this aircraft nicely. It’s like saying the F-101 Voodoo is a mediocre aircraft for any country. It’s a good aircraft. The Navy sure has alot of faith on this aircraft. So please continue…..
I do respect this aircraft. I think it is a mediocre aircraft. There is nothing fancy about it. It does it’s job.
I just don’t like how you and growler keep calling it a superior air superiority aircraft. I think it can hold it’s own in a dogfight. But it hasn’t been in enough dogfights with a diverse amount of aircraft to put that label on it.
As to the F-101 Voodoo… It was a mediocre aircraft. The only reason Canada used it was because we had spent all our money developing the Cf-105 Arrow. When it was cancelled, we struck a deal with the yanks for the Bombmarc missle. Part of the deal was to aquire F-101’s that were leaving American service.
I like the Voodoo. But i know it for what it was. A long range interceptor. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t go around touting it as a superior interceptor…
Within one such system, the primary operators of the Super Hornet, the US Navy, appear to have faith in the Super Hornet’s ability to perform in air to air missions.
It’s not that they have faith… It’s more that they have nothing else. NATF being canceled, F-35 being late. Not much of a choice. Of course they have to talk it up. Can you really hear them say or go on record saying that it’s crap? Can you really hear Boeing going on record and saying “Don’t buy our aircraft, it’s an underperformer”?
I’m not saying that it is garbage.. I think it is a mediocre aircraft. I don’t think it will be on par with many aircraft coming out or down the road for very long!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3O801sVuVo
Awesome Ka-52 video. Good footage of all systems, including Arbalet.
Love this helicopter. I preferred the single seat, the two seat looks chubby up front. But it is too much of a workload for one crew member.
Getting tired of the Vs threads, really it depends on the machine, disadvantages and advantages. With a good performer, that’s the machine that will win, or the well trained pilot
For someone tired of Vs threads…. You decide to make one yourself. Odd that.
I think their navy is using CN-295 MPA’s not CN-235 MPA’s.
Thobbes…. Did Goldust hijack your account?
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some 414 Sqn RCAF Voodoo’s
Thanks for the pics Tempest! I am going to add them to my collection if you don’t mind.
1, that’s iran
2, pakistan really needs a bomber of this size?
3, that’s iranforgive me if you’re just being facetious.
I don’t think there was anything wrong with what he said….
He pointed out that it looked like the model shown at an Iranian parade day. I see similarities in it myself. He also said that maybe they are doing a joint project like China/Pakistan. It’s just speculation, nothing wrong with that.
I don’t mind the low viz markings, but the grey camo really blows. Everything is plain grey. I think the Serbians with their two toned grey digital camo on the Mig-29’s look good. The old British European theatre camo was pretty good.
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probably because he was a big fan and preferred the BaE concept better
which I do too.but the Thales version is not bad.. still quite sexy.
This was my favorite design as well! Although I would have liked the Royal Navy to have CTOL capability…. Just having any carrier in their service is great.
What’s Mk2?
Mirage 2000
I agree with Frank. Viper076 and F-18Growler, i think you two need to slow down and actually read and comprehend what other posters are writing. Nowhere did frank say the Flanker can out turn the hornet. He said out run the hornet and run the hornet out of gas.
And the two of you keep saying the hornet is a superior air superiority fighter. Got proof?
I am unbiased about aircraft and what country they are from. Ive never claimed one aircraft to be better than any other. But with the Canadian’s looking for a new fighter, i hope they don’t go Super hornet.
Trying to sift through this overwhelming barrage of my fighter is the best, its really nerve wracking. There is such an influx of super hornet posts this last little bit… I’m starting to hate the bird!