lets have a Hurricane too!!!… http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/databases/image_bank/images/24468.jpg
Check out John’s pics in post 7 of the attached thread on the same subject…
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=96169&highlight=Harrier+Norway
JJ
:rolleyes: I thought for a moment you were taking the ….
John (spelling check)
oops – corrected now
Post war, Tempest NV999 had a short career with the Winter Experimental Establishment at Edmonton – flipping over in a field near Meeting Creek, AB and being written off in February of 1946.
There’s a book I have by the voracious Canadian Aviation author, think his name is Mulberry/Millberry or something like that, which has photos of Canadians flying Tempests or Typhoons. Perhaps that may provide a partial answer to your question?
Unfortunately my copy is buried inside a box, buried deeper under other stuff while we are renovating, so I can’t be more precise on the actual title for a couple of months.
That’s “Typhoon and Tempest – The Canadian Story” by Hugh A Halliday – Larry (Milberry) – CANAV Books – was the publisher… ISBN 0-921022-06-9
could be, I hadn’t really considered that – it just seems too ‘regular’…
not sure, but just to make sure that everyone is looking at the same item I’ve been pondering…. here’s my original crop (notated) as well as a closer crop on the marking in question.
and… in case anyone is wondering, this is Sabre 23135 – the original uncropped photo was used in Dan Dempsey’s “A Tradition of Excellence – Canada’s Airshow Team Heritage” (2nd Edition – 2007)
Looking again, what I’ve posted now as a ‘recrop’ is not a ladder scuff – it’s definitely some kind of marking.
JJ
I found this…..
It’s cropped from a CF-100 photo. The is ladder is resting on the ejection seat marking.
nice find Mike… but, the biggest prob I have with the ‘ejection seat’ warning symbol is that the RCAF/CAF Sabres didn’t seem to have worn that symbol in that position – hence my wondering… those Canadian Sabres I’ve seen with the ‘appropriate’ ejector warning symbol anywhere near this location, have only carried the red triangle “danger, danger, danger Ejector(ion) seat” marking approximately 1 Meter aft of the indicated position (closer to the leading edge of the canopy in the open position)
For some reason, I want to believe that this may actually be a local emblem (Chatham NB and area) and not an actual warning or service symbol.
I think your close: To me it looks like a “can-can dancer”. She is bent over looking from the back to the front. You can make see her high heel shoes, the lower leg (calf) and ruffeled underwear and head dress.
yess…. :rolleyes: – the old simplified lightbulb drawing, which is the woman washing her feet in a basin???
Somewhere in the dim darks of my memory I think I have seen that on some French aircraft and it is their symbol for an ejection seat warning – Canadian aircraft have that bilingual requirement.
I know where you’re coming from – the ‘exploding’ canopy outline as usually seen on Mirages (although Turkey did apply the same icons to their Sabres) That symbol has never been used by the RCAF/CAF/CF.
As far as the bilingualism, even today service/emergency stenciling was/is unilingual English. All Canadian aircraft whether RCAF or Canadian Armed Forces or Canadian Forces were/are stenciled in English (aside from the ‘national’ titling). It is not and has never been a requirement to have bilingual stenciling.
And not forgetting that a considerable proportion of the uranium for the Hiroshima bomb (and the test device? – can never remember which one that used) had been on board the U-234, destined for Japan when the war in Europe ended.
Adrian
actually most of the Uranium for the US bombs (whether Fat Man or Little Boy and later and later) came out of Canada
the log books of F/O J.E. Ledbetter (later S/L) – RCAF 1941 to 1965
Wartime Strannies and Cansos
But here are reported about another Tempest’s version – Mk.VI (see below):
http://www.canadianwings.com/Aircraft/aircraftDetail.php?TEMPEST-30
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/v2/equip/hst/tempest-eng.asp
Where is truth ?
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And also Dogsbody wrote:But our other colleagues have not written about this fact.
What numbers had those RAF squadrons ?
And more information – serial numbers and code letters of these Tempests, their quantity, etc… ?
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Flyer.
There was only ever one Tempest in Canada as mentioned (whether it was a V or VI, I don’t know) it WAS NV999.
Following information is a quick glean from Halliday’s book – the book is readily available from the publisher at the above web-address (CANAV Books)
As for the Canadians on RAF Sqns flying Tempests…
3 Sqn and 486 (RNZAF) Sqn – from April 1944
56 Sqn – July 2 1944 (transitioning from Spitfires)
274 Sqn – August 7 1944
80 Sqn – sometime before October 1944
By October their were the 5 squadrons on the continent based at B.80 (Volkel)
Some names??
274 Sqn… F/L John Malloy (Ottawa, Ont.) – EJ781
274 Sqn… F/O Frederick Mossing (Regina, Man.)
3 Sqn… P/O George Whitman – actually an American who joined the RCAF
56 Sqn… F/L Harvey Hoare (Lang, Sask.) – EJ534/A-56, JN869/D-56
56 Sqn… F/L John Ryan (Toronto) – JN864/C-56, EJ536/R-56
56 Sqn… P/O David Ness (Westmount, Que.) – EJ522/F-56, EJ536/B-56, NV963/US-C
80 Sqn… F/O John Garland (Richmond, Ont.) – EJ722, EJ667
By early February 1945 there were relatively few Canadians remaining on the Tempest Sqns.
May 4, 1945 F/O J.T. James was the last RCAF pilot on 274 Sqn.
Hope that helps.
From Larry Milberry’s “Canada’s Air Force at War and Peace – Volume 1″…
The first Canadian-built Lysander flew at National Steel Car (Malton, Ont.) August 1939…
will keep looking for s/n
(edit – there you go another James got it in there)
this week I’m into “Permission Granted” – a neat little memoire/autobiography by S/L (Ret’d) Wess McIntosh (RCAF)… a light yet interesting read