point out that post, please. RpR is a dedicated god-botherer and anything that says different is likely to be someone making a mistake.

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Oooops, mistook another poster’s name, spec savers moment there, retraction RpR is definitely not atheist.

The Bible says God finds homosexuality to be an abomination, that is it.

It does not command or condone anyone to attack them, it actually says people with logs in there eyes are worried about those with specs in theirs; On the other hand the verses I pasted from the Koran above condone and command what is to be done.

Not the same or even similar, also the Baptist church you mention has been/is loudly condemned by all Christian denominations.
If one were to proclaim such insults about Mohammed one would be subject to a death sentence that is officially proper by Muslim dogma.
Boy are Muslim and Christian dogma alike, yeah sure.

The Bible indeed every “holy” book has been written by man, what we see now are remnants of ancient writings with not the slightest knowledge of their origins, man’s vanity is such that every word will be the authors interpretation of old stories, which in turn are a mix of folk lore, lies, fables, fantasy, rumour with possibly the odd nugget of truth, the theories of Von Danniken are just as valid and just as fictional.

Religion, just like humans, has good aspects and some pretty nasty ones as well, come on, the God of the Old Testament was a God of fear and retribution, in reality very much as most rulers were.

Just had a quiet chuckle reading back through this old thread, one thing I distinctly remember, don’t know if this was just a family thing or did others get this?

As a young growing lad with appetite to match, if I turned up between meals on the “verge of starvation” I would very often be presented with a slab of fruit cake between two slices of bread and butter to munch on, always did a good job of filling the hunger and staving off the “imminent collapse”.

I remember having to go to the local hardware store to get a gallon of paraffin for the convector heater, that stinky free standing heater with the wick that always needed trimming …. I think it was 2/6d , b…..dy heavy that gallon can cutting into your hand.
Sometimes had to get a bag of anthracite???? or was it coke…..what was this stuff?

Coke was the stuff left over after gas had been extracted from coal, anthracite is a very hard coal, burns hot and slow with very little or no smoke, the best available came from the Welsh coal mines, in the day.

Have no experience of Bengal cats, but our last cat was a very large neutered male Maine Coon, he was a large example of a large breed and yes as some have mentioned can be very energetic, fortunately he was a good cat to have around and didn’t attack furniture etc apart from a large sheepskin rug which he would beat into submission at least once a day.

A similarity between the two breeds has been mentioned, if that is the case from my experience welcome the cat in to your home, our Maine Coon was the most affectionate and friendly cat we have ever had, in some respects almost dog like in wanting to play and attention, at times daft as a brush and certainly always made his presence known.

We lost him to a cancer 5 years ago aged 21, sadly missed but not forgotten.

Wokka Bob

Have never owned or been owned by a Bengal, but certainly agree totally with your description of a Maine Coon, to be fair never saw him involved in fisticuffs with any other felines, most just took one look and decided to be elsewhere, however one or two dogs got quite a surprise if they came too close , but that was only when some daft dog owner allowed their dog to wander into gardens etc.

He liked being around people and was amazingly tolerant of children, never ever scratched or bit a child, would just wander off if attention got too much.

The worst thing I can say about him is he followed the edict that “dogs have owners, cats have staff” to the letter.

Baz – I agree with your last point but not your first. After all the Dutch managed to anticipate the likely increased payment and planned accordingly. I rather think it is Treasury ineptitude not EU ineptitude and I say that as a Eurosceptic, as my various posts clearly illustrate.

I too am outraged but by the budget increase and that’s the battle Cameron should be fighting and for which he might find some allies.

The sorry saga is looking worse, it appears that this revision was known about in January, by March all countries had submitted their revised figures for their individual economies, at this stage treasury departments of all countries could and certainly should have been aware of the effects of this revision, this is when any negotiation and wrangling should have gone on, but it would appear that our Treasury and Ministers sat back contemplating their navels naively hoping that it would all just go away.

I like most, am not happy with retrospective accounting, but to plead surprise is looking more and more suspect.

I would have thought that it was a legal requirement to quote interest rates so that a direct comparison between lenders could be made?

Must agree with that, you know of course that you are now facing calling a dreaded call centre and attempting to discuss with someone whose command of English isn’t great, and who will explain to you at great length what he/she can see on their screen, which surprisingly is exactly what you can see yourself. Good luck