John

Your last comment frightens the **** out of me, the thought of multiple Katie Hopkins is the stuff of nightmares.

RpR,

You need guns to protect yourselves from democratically elected politicians???????

That sounds like armed revolution, don’t worry if you go in for civil war we Brits will come along and pick up the pieces:highly_amused:

There is clearly a movement for Catalan independence, how popular or widespread this is I have no idea, but I do feel that the Spanish government handled the whole affair badly indeed, surely speaking to the people is the right way, if that means going for a referendum so be it, remember we still have the question of Scottish independence festering, however the people of Scotland were given the opportunity to vote and turned it down, who knows what a democratic vote would produce in Spain, sending in riot squads and militia will probably produce more clamour for independence than a rational campaign followed by a free vote.

The EU will obviously not be in favour, just as they weren’t in favour of possible Scottish independence, but the EU did not send in riot squads.

John Green

Your last point I would agree with, but our police do not allow private security to take an active role on the streets, perhaps these celebs should pay the police?

Not point scoring or even trying to do, merely pointing out that if there is a possibility of conduct arising which could give rise to anti-social or even criminal activity, the police will, where possible be on hand to prevent or diffuse the situation, in reality I think it is a sad reflection on society that this level of protection is felt necessary, of course as far as government is concerned or indeed any large gathering, this will become a target for terrorists.

You will notice that criminals guilty of particularly evil crimes also get police protection as they enter or leave courts, don’t approve of their protection, but do realise that walking these people out to a hostile crowd would certainly create a difficult situation.

Possibly your complaint is when those receiving cover from the police are so called “celebrities”.

Capitalists don’t really like “free markets” or competition, what they want are closed deals, cartels, guaranteed returns and as much access to public finances as possible, the capitalist mind set does not crave competition or a level playing field, it’s only thought is self profit, no concern for how that is achieved.

Surely any “newspaper” of any description would make a few basic checks before splashing lurid and totally false headlines all over the place, must be quiet skies over Penzance, where I live we under one major air corridor, the planes (all commercial) are at altitude and no problem, but with recognition skills like that we would have QRAs every 20 minutes or so at peak times.

Agree the build materials had changed from WW1, but any one building WW1 aircraft would have recognised the build methods used on the Hurricane, whereas the Spitfire build would have been utterly alien, remember the Hurricane particularly the early models were still fabric clad over a predominantly wood frame, exactly as earlier aircraft had been built.