Brexiteers claim that the referendum was a convincing vote for leaving the EU, Remainers are just as sure that repeating the exercise would produce a different result, most certainly the majority was not a massive vote for exiting the EU, but it was undoubtedly a majority.

For me I have no wish to be part of Federated State of Europe, but to pretend that our little island just of the coast of mainland Europe can just act as if Europe doesn’t exist, pretend that the days of the British Commonwealth can be resurrected and we will once again rule half the world, or at least trade with most of the world on our terms, is naive beyond belief.

We have already seen plenty of negative effects from the Brexit vote and we haven’t left yet, see no positive negotiations or planning for exiting the EU, for me what makes it worse is that most of the claims from the Brexit camp were either outright lies or situations which we could have changed while still within the EU.

For instance all the blather over immigration, yet non-EU immigration has continuously exceeded immigration from within the EU, WHY? in reality until the admittance of the Eastern European countries to the EU, immigration from the EU was small, yet this country allowed the rise of “agencies” “gangmasters”, “payroll companies” mostly based outside this country and employing workers from abroad, all to satisfy employers who wanted cheap, disposable labour.

For me it is our own governments who have let us down badly, both the Tories and Labour have been happy to see this immigration (for different reasons” both sides have failed, even under EU rules there has never been a requirement to accept this large influx, certainly free movement of workers no problem, but those workers should have had to come to this country and applied for jobs in competition with British workers, not the system allowed to take over, any one not finding employment and not able to provide for themselves, would have to go home and that is the situation across most EU countries.

Of course we have Buffoon Johnson restating the funds which will be available on exit, we all know that that is a lie and will never happen, most certainly not with the present administration in power even if that money was available.

As far as just stepping out of the EU, that is a non starter, what do you think the chances would be of setting up new trade deals with anyone, if we simply reneged on all existing deals? no-one in their right minds would trust us to abide by any deal.

Johnny Johnson must also be aware of the fascist dictatorship currently being installed in this country, ( And I’ll bet it makes him cringe in dis-belief ) which basically is putting 2 fingers up to all our forefathers who served in WW2 and doesn’t seem to care about todays UK Forces either. ( http://www.ukcolumn.org ) People need to wake up—fast !!!! if not for themselves but for their kids and grandkids futures.

Bill T.

If you are referring to our present government, agree wholeheartedly.

The efectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent is always open to dispute/debate, however many of us will remember the Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev expecting/hoping that Kennedy would back down, the nuclear arsenals of Britain and the USA went to their highest state of readiness ever, even Khrushchev decided that the whole damn thing was getting too dangerous and turned his ships round, I would think that is one instance of nuclear deterrence working.

Regarding the current state and cost of nuclear weapons, while it would be good to free up major expenditure, there is and will continue to be enough nutters around who given the opportunity would happily demolish a country if they thought they could get away with it.

Family friend owned a Capri Turbo Broadspeed Bullit for a fairly short time, I drove the beast a number of times, interesting to say the least, not many cars, certainly in those far off days, where you could boot the thing while travelling at 50mph and still get wheel spin, fortunately he was in the motor trade as warped front discs became an occupational hazard.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/anzac-graves-desecrated-in-west-london/6967474

wonder how the oxygen thieves that did that would of went on the battlefields of ww1 , it makes one both angry and sad

sorry the thread title is wrong , it was not 112 graves that where vandalized not that the number has anything to do with it

Whether one grave or all, your sentiments and expressions are correct, there are sadly some very sick people out there, just hope that they are caught and dealt with.

And I thought the implication was that the taxpayer didn’t pay for the public utilities…

…maybe I got the wrong end of the stick?

Yes, if any operation, business or organisation is state owned and run, then I expect the taxpayer to fund investment, however with a private “run for profit” business, I do not expect the taxpayer to fund investment and the operators take the profits.

Remember many of the power stations are still very much the ones built and funded by the taxpayer originally.

Evidently the plan is for more gas powered stations, funded by the good old tax payer, what price privatisation now???