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Clearly you have your own opinion on this, but for me vigilantism is someone setting out to serve their own brand of justice after the event, on the lines of get a posse and round up the varmints.

It’s also safe to say that most of us would avoid confrontation where possible, but on the occasion where the victim is confronted do not blame the victim for the results of any retaliation, frankly if the victim has the opportunity to gain the upper hand and inflict a little retribution, I for one would not condemn that action in any way.

Yes,that what short term contracts,no staff morale and the pay peanuts get monkeys do for you.

You missed those lovely zero hour contracts, do a good job today, double your output, no work tomorrow, of course these people take pride in their job, yeah right.

I grew up in a rural area, in those days we had the “lengthmen” who covered the road/ pavement and under hedge rows cleaning, one guy covered a considerable distance in total, but that length was “his”, he took real care and kept it tidy.
Of course this isn’t quick enough today, now we must have a little mechanical sweeper thing occassionally, or the little quad bikes that whizz round allegedley spraying the weeds, I do wonder at times, which is the more expensive, I certainly know which is more efficient.

There is much made of people taking the law into their own hands, I don’t think anyone has advocated that, with Mr Woodhouse, when the situation was stabilised he then called the police, even under those circumstances he did not exact his own retribution after things calmed a little, if he had resorted totally to self administering justice that pair would probably have been found in a ditch somewhere.

Unless we are confronted with that situation few of us know how we woulkd react, the only thing I am certain of is that the health and well being of an intruder, potential assailant, would not be foremost in my mind.

I am still waiting for actual examples.

Sorry to keep you waiting, firstly gangmaster workers, the majority if not all are on zero hour contracts, that is how the system operates, no work, no pay, try claiming holiday pay or sick pay, redundancy money obviously does not exist,end of.

Of course other employers see this tactic and want some of that, real situation.

A home care company contracted to local authority providing care services to people in their own homes, company announced that they had sold the contract on to another company, all workers hastily contacted told their existing jobs were safe, but of course new contracts would be required, the nice shiny new contracts were all zero hour, with less allocated time for each call, travelling time between calls classed as not working.

Many workers simply stopped work and started proceedings against the new company, but of course many workers simply felt trapped and needing to carry on. Fortunately the local authority got involved, discovered that the new company was actually just a name change and not a new company at all, discovered some balls and told the new company that they were in contravention of the existing contract and would take legal action.

Eventually sanity was restored, workers got some sort of an acceptable contract, but during all this many elderly people were missed out of visits, cases of people left in their bed until afternoon etc, experienced workers left.

In this case the care contract has now gone to another company created by ex workers of the original company with local authority support, but this was a real attempt to force zero hour contracts on to a workforce, an attempt which has succeeded in other areas.

Nah, he imported them cheap from China.

Here in the North West, flooding not a major problem, but the wind has taken a wrecking ball to the area as the low pressure passes through.

Very touching…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10829992

In the UK our barmy Police would probably have arrested them.

Somewhere in this country a group would be now firing up the complaints machine claiming some disrespect to them, that shows a real tribute to mates/comrades.

The guy was an elected trade union leader who did a damn good job of looking after HIS members interests, funnily enough that was precisely what his union paid him for.

Now if our politicians of whatever shade, worked half as hard and achieved a quarter as much for their members this country would be a much better place.

Let’s not start another Maggie thread under any pretext.