Jim

I wasn’t at Orgreave, from what I saw it certainly looked as if the miners were on the wrong end of the conflict, but the really wicked part of the whole damn thing was the police being used as Maggie’s militia.

Agree or disagree with Scargill, the strike or Tory policy, no government must ever again be permitted to use the police against the people of this country as an enforcer of government policy, law and order yes, but as a bunch of strong arm enforcers, no. For me that action stunk then and always will do.

I suppose he could claim for having pneumoconiosis from his time at Orgreave!

There is talk of “revisiting” police statements from that episode due to irregularities, don’t know if that will happen, I suspect another can of worms if it does.

In the papers today the police are ready to start making arrests, clearly this goes beyond Saville.

They phrased it as three areas of enquiry those involving Saville, Saville and others and some just others, they are now putting together an arrest strategy which is reckoned to involve some well known names.

I think!!, as he resigned,and wasn’t sacked, He will be able to keep his pension, as he is now just a Civviy. Mind you 50K, a year, plus his State Pension when eligible, will be a nice little earner.
Rather like Blair, choosing the perfect moment with impeccable timing to jump ship.Should Blair be made to repay the Dets he got this Country into?. Same old story, School tie etc etc.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

£50K?, you wish, the guy is entitled to £82Kplus from Merseyside alone, just imagine how well that has been received in this part of the world.

I believe his police pension entitlement totals £88K per annum.

Charlie……….

Can see you are not too keen on harvesting wind energy…!!! Think calling it a “disaster” is a slight over statement.

Planemike

The concept of an inexhaustible energy source is great, the stupidity with wind is simply it is no way reliable, we will need other forms of generating power to cover shortfalls, the idea of duplicating energy supplies doesn’t make a right lot of sense.

It’s a bit like expecting an employer to take someone on full time on full salary, then employee choosing when he/she works and at what rate.

I have no idea whether he is guilty or not – if he is he will be prosecuted. But there is an obvious answer to your last question.:rolleyes:

The inquiry can’t compel civilians to attend and testify, as a senior police officer he would be expected to, played his “get out of jail” card perfectly.

Apparently Gideon has form for this, one occasion didn’t have the readies available and had to go sit with the plebs, by all accounts a shattering experience even though no-one threatened to heave him through the window, evidently he was pretty well ignored.

Having read the article, The Mirror merely highlighted this case as an extreme example, however the real story is that this tactic is being widely employed with service men in the last one or two years of their time.

Of course the MOD are sticking to the official line that point of service time has no bearing whatsoever on the redundancy, if that was genuinely the case, why not simply allow these personnel serve out their time and not replace them?.

This is cost cutting on the backs of service personnel many of who have laid their lives on the line, as far as help for ex-military personnel is concerned there is no constant, some are helped, some are just tipped overboard like so much waste.

The case only a couple of weeks back, young soldier severely injured, loss of leg and massive internal injuries, through guts and determination this young lad has achieved his first target, that was make it to the local shop and buy his own paper, immediately some over blown officious prat in the benefits office decides that this lad can now walk and no longer qualifies for any disability allowance.

When querying this he was told, “well you have an artificial leg which is just as good as anyone else”, totally ignoring his list of other injuries which would have killed most people and are still a major disabling factor. Because of the furore that erupted involving his local MP, Councillors and ex-regiment his case was re-evaluated and benefits restored, this should not be happening at all.