There is more to it than just Lord March being able to state ‘we don’t allow replicas’.
Goodwood races (and most other historic meetings of the type) are sanctioned by the FIA and the historic motor racing bodies within the FIA umbrella. In order to gain entry into an FIA sanctioned historic race meeting, the car has to be as it raced in period and homologated by the FIA and given a historic technical passport proving the car is as it was when first raced. The only deviation from this is the use of modern roll cages, seats, seatbelts and driver equipment (overalls and helmets). It may be possible to take an original road car of the period and turn it into a historic race car based on available FIA homologation but you cannot get a passport on a car built during 2014 or 2015. It has to be built in period.
Although there is nothing to stop you building/buying a bodyshell and building a ‘dataplate’ period car – but that is a whole different can of worms and no-one is expecting the new lightweights to suddenly develop a new data plate
John Romain was on the Chris Evans breakfast show this morning basically saying the same thing but it should be on catch up on the BBC website if you want to hear it – around 8:15-8:20
Interesting reading, I’ll stick with cars for a while but thanks for the input all.
I drive through Martlesham Heath on a daily basis on my way to work at what was once RAF Bentwaters. On my route up the A-12 I pass the old parade square and surrounding office buildings, all now used for offices. On the left where the main runway ran is houses, lots and lots of them. It’s been said above, this is progress. The amount of space an old airfield takes up is vast and can accommodate many thousands of houses.
Here at Bentwaters I work on the industrial park in what was once the old technical area. We need two small workshop buildings and an office for 45 staff and manufacture products for the oil and gas industry. Our manufacturing process involves sourcing sub assemblies and castings (from UK foundries) and building into a finished product at Bentwaters. We ship all over the world at healthy profit. UK manufacturing isn’t big factories any more it’s small niche product at the top end of the technical scale. British products are sought after by our foreign cousins the world over.
Alright it’s not an aircraft factory and it’s not very exciting but that is no longer our style. I’m willing to bet there are designers in offices similar to mine working on parts and designs all over the UK for aircraft being built the world over, even if the parts aren’t even made here the technical knowledge is still being applied.
I’m aware I’m a little off topic but it saddens me to read on forums such as this and in the general press a bemoaning of ‘the end of British industry’. Unless I win the lottery (and then I’ll buy my DHC Chipmunk and join all the doctors mentioned above) I’m going to be working in it for the next 30 years until retirement and I believe my job is safe because small niche companies such as the one I work for exist all over the country and offer flexible opportunities for a varied career.
Unfortunately we don’t need aircraft factories or the space they take up. It’s sad to see Woodford being demolished like that but I think it’s important the people who will live there in future will have a reminder of it’s former glory. The museum is a wonderful start and I’d love to live in Lancaster Street, or Vulcan Avenue (but then I’m a plane enthusiast). I hope they will name the streets appropriately, they have at Martlesham.
Can’t understand where all the stainless exhaust shield and fire wall has gone surely can’t have completely corroded away? That armoured glass section from the tail is nice.
Seawater corrodes stainless steel. I work in the pump industry and we manufacture our pumps from high chromium steels known as Duplex or Super Duplex for sea water duties. Not necessary on an aircraft that isn’t designed to be used at sea though so more conventional stainless steels would be used.
They will have already reviewed and considered the post from Propstrike then – two people to a seat!
Why on earth would anyone want to fly in a noisy vibrating rattly piston jobby, you might as well fly in a Piper Cherokee….. Far better doing aeros and flying faster than the speed of sound in a jet fighter or the likes, now that would be fun. 😉
I’m targeting achievable goals by increments and working my way up!
There are other options to consider, on the odd time they come up….I was able (just) to negotiate £500 out of our account to board the BofB veterans Airbus flight. Affordable (for my budget), and unforgetable.
To be honest, I’d happily start with their Chipmunk. I was 14 when I last got a ride in one just as the Air cadets were phasing them out. It was Bulldogs after that.
Will a candidate on an experience flight get to take the controls? It’s not clear on their website if you actually fly or just go along as a passenger. The Boultbee website clearly states you will not get to control their aircraft.
I’m not a historian, just an enthusiast and if there is a new Spitfire I don’t know about I’d like to know where it came from and it’s history.
I don’t care that they have done this for an advert – it worked I looked up their prices last week. The question was asked if it’s photoshop and I added my view on that.
Still tempted to have a conversation at home – so, I’d like to spend nearly £3,000 darling…..
Perfect formation, identical markings (except the lack of ID on the No. 2 aircraft) and even the propellers are in symmetry.
I think it’s Photoshop!
The picture on the front gives a better indication of what colour to paint it!
ISO containers only take a maximum height of 2m (or something like that). On it’s undercarriage the Hellcat looks considerably taller (and probably longer than an ISO unit) than that so it will have to go on top of the ISO units in an open container on the ship.
I have no issue with aircraft being exported abroad – in time they may come back again.
I’d also rather see it flying on youtube than not seeing it in some museum store room away from public eye.
The Guy Martin Program mentioned the use of an MG mirror on N3200.
Standard fitment to the MG sports cars of the time (and many other British sports cars) would have been the Lucas type 160 mirror as replicated here and sold by many other MG spares companies. This mirror was still in use post war as it is on my fathers 1954 MGTF
http://www.vintagemgparts.com/mirror_arms.html
I don’t know how this differs from the Desmo mirror already mentioned – Desmo were also in common use by car manufacturers of the time – except to say the Lucas has a single fixing centrally mounted on the back and the Desmo mentions a two lug fixing but I can’t find any pictures of it.
Presumably the surround mounting was then made locally in the workshop at the squadron. It is similar in design to some Brooklands era race cars I’ve seen but there wouldn’t have been many of those to steal so would have been copied from pictures I guess.
And flying has re-commenced – it’s been noticeably quiet around here in recent weeks and months, which wasn’t surprising.
L-4 Stinson buzzing around on Wednesday and one of the Trig Aero Pitts Specials this morning. I assume ML407 is still at Duxford?
No photos I’m afraid. The view from my office window across the base doesn’t really allow worthwhile photography