gunner5″7 warships on fiscal 2011 inactive ship list
Three frigates, three amphibious ships and one attack sub are among the Navy and Military Sealift Command ships scheduled to leave the fleet over the next year, according to a new message that spells out the names and dates for the Navy’s next inactivations.
The message, dated Wednesday and signed by Vice Adm. John Blake, the Navy’s top requirements officer, details the fates of some familiar names, but leaves the door open for at least one major one: the amphibious assault ship Nassau.
Although the Navy has scheduled to decommission Nassau on March 31, 2011, Blake’s message includes this note: “Service life extension is currently under review. Stakeholders will be advised … of any decision to extend the ship’s service life.”
Congressional lawmakers have called on the Navy to keep its ships around for as long as possible, and went so far as to mandate in this year’s defense bill that the Nassau and its sibling, Peleliu, must stay in commission at least until the arrival of their replacement America-class gators. That bill has not yet become law, so Blake’s note seems to indicate the Navy is reserving its options on Nassau in case it must rehabilitate the ship to last until the commissioning of the America, now set for 2012.
In addition to seven Navy warships, the list includes the fate of four MSC support ships. They appear here, with their scheduled inactivation dates and current fates:
Frigates
• Hawes: Dec. 10, 2010 — “Will be utilized as a logistic support asset primarily for remaining ships in the FFG 7 class.”
• Jarrett: May 27, 2011 — Set aside for foreign military sale.
• Doyle: July 29, 2011 — Set aside for foreign military sale.
Amphibious transport docks
• Dubuqe: April 29, 2011 — Will be kept in a reserve status.
• Cleveland: Sept. 30, 2011 — Will be kept in a reserve status.
Amphibious assault ships
• Nassau: March 31, 2011 — Commanders are evaluating a life-extension program, and if it’s decommissioned, the ship will be kept in a reserve status.
Fast attack submarines
• Memphis: March 14, 2011 — Will be dismantled.
Transport tankers
• Samuel L. Cobb: Oct. 30, 2010 — Will be transferred to the U.S. Maritime Administration.
• Richard G. Matthiesen: March 31, 2011 — Will be transferred to MARAD.
Ammunition ships
• Kiska: Jan. 14, 2011 — Will be dismantled.
• Shasta: Sept. 30, 2011 — Will be dismantled.
navytimes.com
gunner5″GERMANY :rolleyes:
gunner5″in german:
Besonders drastisch wird demnach die Flotte der Tornado-Kampf- und Aufklärungsjets gestutzt. Von den heute 185 Maschinen soll bereits zeitnah ab 2011 mit der Reduzierung auf 85 Maschinen begonnen werden. Das Aufklärungsgeschwader 51 in Jagel ist gleich mehrfach betroffen. So soll die Aufklärung mit Nassfilmen genauso eingestellt werden wie die Unterstützung der Marine.
Auch in Bezug auf die Marine sind weitere Details durchgesickert.
Neben der vorzeitigen Stilllegung der zehn letzten Schnellboote stehen alle acht Fregatten der „Bremen“- Klasse auf der Liste. In Kiel steht jetzt ebenfalls eine deutliche Reduzierung bei den Minensuch-und Minenjagdbooten
an. Wie auch bei den Schnellbooten soll hier die Zahl der Boote bereits mit der Verfügbarkeit der noch kaputten Korvetten der Klasse K130 reduziert werden.
Von den vier bereits bestellten Fregatten der Klasse 125 soll ein Schiff
bei den Werften wieder storniert werden.
Zum Ausgleich empfehlen die Planer die schnelle Beschaffung von sechs einsatztauglichen und auch verfügbaren Korvetten (Klasse K131).
Die Beschaffung des Marinehubschraubers MH90 wird demnach auf Eis gelegt.
Die Folge: eine Ausdünnung der Seenotrettung, da die 21 Sea King-Maschinen aufgrund ihres Alters längere Stehzeiten benötigen.
Ein Sprecher des Verteidigungsministeriums bestätigte die Existenz der Liste, stellte aber klar, dass es sich nur um Empfehlungen handele. Entscheidungen sollen im Herbst fallen.
Bei der Marine stehen inzwischen alle acht Fregatten der „Bremen“-Klasse neben den zehn letzten Schnellbooten auf der Streichliste. Dazu kommen noch 15 der 38 Einheiten aus dem Bereich der Minensuchgeschwader in Kiel.
So empfehlen die Planer mit der Indienststellung der Korvetten des Typs K130 die
sofortige Stilllegung der fünf Kieler Hohlstablenkboote der „Auerbach“-Klasse, von zwei Minenjägern, dem Hochseeschlepper „Langeoog“ sowie von acht der 18 Minenräumdrohnen des Typs „Seehund“.
Die Anschaffung eines neuen Marinehubschraubers soll bis 2015 verschoben werden.
Angesichtsder Situation wird damit die Ausdünnung aus der Seenotrettung durch den alternden „Sea King“ in Kauf genommen. „Angesichts dieser Entscheidung muss auch hinterfragt werden, ob es Sinn macht, in Nordholz noch 44 Millionen Euro für die Umsiedlung der 21 Hubschrauber des Kieler Marinefliegergeschwaders zu verschwenden“, kommentiert der SPD-Verteidigungsexperte Hans-Peter Bartels (SPD) aus Kiel.
Von den vier bei den Werften 2009 bestellten Fregatten der Klasse 125 soll das vierte Schiff wieder storniert werden.
Der Neubau eines Logistik- und Landungsschiffes soll bis 2020 verschoben werden.
Zum Ausgleich schlagen die Planer die kurzfristige Beschaffung von sechs weiteren Korvetten für 2015 vor.
google translated:
Most significantly, therefore the fleet of Tornado bombers and reconnaissance is cropped. Of the 185 machines today is scheduled to be started promptly in 2011 with the reduction to 85 machines. The reconnaissance squadron 51 in Jagel is affected equally on several occasions. Asked that the Enlightenment as well as how to support the Navy with wet film.
Also with regard to the Navy more details are leaked.
In addition to the premature closure of the last ten speedboats, all eight frigates of the “Bremen” – class on the list. In Kiel, is now also a significant reduction in mine detection and mine-hunting boats
at. As with the speedboats here, the number of boats are already reduced with the availability of more broken K130 class corvettes.
Of the four frigates already ordered 125 of the class is a ship
be canceled for the yards again.
To compensate, the planners recommend the rapid acquisition of six corvettes for use, and also available (Class K131).
The procurement of the Marine helicopter MH90 is therefore placed on ice.
The result is a thinning of the lifeboat, as required, the 21 Sea King-machines because of their age long idle times.
A spokesman for the MoD confirmed the existence of the list, but made clear, that these are only recommendations. Decisions will fall in autumn.
In the meantime, all eight naval frigate “Bremen” class next to the last ten speedboats on the scratch list. In addition, there are 15 of the 38 units in the field of Minesweeping Squadron in Kiel.
Thus, the planners recommend the commissioning of the K130 corvettes of the type of immediate closure of the five the “Auerbach” class, two mine hunters, the deep-sea tug “Langeoog” and eight of the 18 Minenräumdrohnen of type “seal”.
The purchase of a new Marine helicopter to be moved by 2015.
Angesichtsder situation so that the thinning out of the lifeboat by the aging “Sea King” accepted. “In light of this decision must also be questioned whether it makes sense to waste in North wood, 44 million euros for the relocation of the 21 helicopters of the Kiel naval air squadron,” said the SPD-defense expert Hans-Peter Bartels from Kiel.
Of the four shipyards in the 2009 frigates ordered in Class 125 is the fourth ship to be canceled again.
The construction of a logistics ship and landing to be postponed until 2020.
To compensate, the planners propose short-term procurement of six new corvettes for 2015.
gunner5″Bundeswehr is to disarm massive
The Navy is the report that the medium to long term to order eight frigates class 122 , ten patrol boats and 21 Sea King helicopters out of service instead of four and only three new frigates of the class 125.
The Department of Defence is planning a newspaper report that considerable savings in weapons and equipment of the Bundeswehr.
Experts from the Ministry had drawn up a list of savings, the implementation of long term would save more than nine billion euro, reports the “Bild”-Zeitung.
According to 15 Transall transport planes immediately closed down and the number of the new A400M be reduced.
Instead of the planned 122-NH-90 helicopters should be purchased only 80, laid down by the 80 “Tiger” only 40 combat helicopters to be procured.
In the 23-page document, entitled “Prioritization material investments – recommendations would” Defence Minister Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg (CSU) also recommended to speed up the planned reduction of the Tornado fleet from 185 to 85 as soon as further reports the newspaper. The investigation comes in addition to the recommendation that the purchase of 37 aircraft of the type “Eurofighter to give.”
gunner5″EURO HAWK replaced SIGINT Breguet Atlantique maritime patrol aircraft of the German Navy.
After nearly two hours flying time and reached an altitude of 32,000 feet of EURO HAWK landed smoothly on the Edwards Air Force Base. The EURO HAWK is the product of cooperation between the U.S. company Northrop Grumman Corporation and the German EADS. Five EuroHawk systems include the proposed procurement contract with the Bundeswehr. The German Luftwaffe and Navy with EURO HAWK its own future reconnaissance requirement can be covered with ground breaking technology, thus giving them the ability to control their own communications activities.
The UAV is 14.5 meters long, 4.6 meters, has a wing span of almost 40 meters. The launch weight of 14.6 tons. The special feature: It is controlled from the ground. The HALE UAV EURO HAWK (HALE – High Altitude Long Endurance) operates from a height of about 60,000 feet, flying so much higher and is able to travel greater distances than any commercial pilot. The Euro Hawk is equipped with German SIGINT sensors and the module (SIGINT – Signals Intelligence), a Signalerfassenden ability to educate.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ZPKzp_GJY&feature=player_embedded#!
gunner5″In the media goes about even that the entire German Navy (now 18.000 Sailors and 90 Surface Vessels) should even be abolished in the next 10 years.
The priorities are to focus on the army and the air force and wedren the tasks taken on the allied marine.
When and in what period the transfer of the navy is to be performed is not known.
gunner5″:diablo:
Though I have no ill will towards the Bundesmarine, the Koninklijke Marine will be pleased. After the thrashing it received, at least the Dutch navy will now have this going for it.
Bundesmarine was before 1990 – now ist called Deutsche Marine 😉
But i think, the structure of 9000 will be not not reality…it´s now just a example
gunner5″Guttenberg will cut german navy over 50 percent
Untimely resignation of the speedboats If Karl-Theodor to Guttenberg today in Djibouti the german frigate “Schleswig – Holstein” visited, becomes it no light round.
Also with the soldiers in the horn of Africa the news has come to the savings plans from the native country for a long time and provides for topics.
At least, “Schleswig – Holstein” is also concerned. The middle of the 90s to the fight of Soviet nuclear submarines built frigate should be adapted, actually, for a long time to the new application requirements. However, the money for the rebuilding was just stroked. How so a lot in the navy.
The first who got to feel the changes with full force were the U-boat drivers. Six boats of the class 206A were taken from the readiness to drive.
Now completely on top on the prank list there stand ten last patrolboats of the class 143A. The plan, 7. To keep speedboat squadron up to separation by corvettes of the class K131 about in 2016/2017 in the fleet, is stroked.
Also the project K131 is stroked.
There will be massive incisions also with the frigates. Eight frigates of the “Bremen” class (class 122) will remain by no means up to commissioning as a substitute to intended four ships of the class 125 during journey. Two frigates are not already fully operational any more.
If the number of staff of the fleet is really halved, not only ships and boats are selected in big circumference, but also bases are closed. The navy is present in Schleswig – Holstein presently in Kiel, Eckernförde, luck castle, Plön and Neustadt. Which locations it like hits, is open. The fact that there will be changes, however, the parting commander of the fleet, vice admiral Hans-Joachim Stricker, also does not deny. He places by the future planning at first on the abilities which a navy should cover in future. „ About locations it is not spoken there at the current time at all “, according to knitter on the edge of the Kiel week. The incisions concern not only soldiers, but also the civil facilities. To both navy arsenals in Wilhelmshaven and Kiel tasks break with the halving of the fleet also massively away. The closing of the submarines and speedboats as well as the shortening of the corvette program concerns especially the Kiel company. The submarine-pressure dock is not required any more. The new swimming dock “B” should be moved from Kiel to Wilhelmshaven.
If the purpose structure of 9000 (18000 now) official posts became a reality, the German navy becomes for the first time smaller than of the Netherlands Navy(10000 official posts).
gunner5″the fourth is the german Rhön class (Type 704) fleet oiler
the first is the german Berlin class (Type 702) combat support ship
gunner5″Gosh! Don’t call them “Combat Support Ship”, rather “Task Group Support Ship”. 😀
Aha…..take a look…
http://www.fsg-ship.de/2product/pdf/702.pdf
gunner5″New combat support ship for the German Navy
The new supply ship “Bonn” will also receive a helicopter detection and guidance radar along with the command and decision control system and the internal communication system also to be supplied by Thales. The company thus plays a major role in one of the German Navy’s key new construction projects, approved by Germany’s parliament last year. This program will provide the German Navy with a fleet of three supply ships as of 2012, enabling it to further expand its ability to take on a wide variety of support missions.
Thales will supply the VARIANT radar, as well as hardware and software for helicopter detection and guidance for the two supply ships “Berlin” and “Frankfurt am Main” and for the “Bonn”. These systems will close a major gap in the ships’ performance capabilities.
gunner5″Google-Translate
As the first ever German ship, the “Hesse” built this for months in a U.S. aircraft carrier battle group, a Carrier Strike Group. These organizations operate worldwide and are the strongest combat units on the seas. But they also come in humanitarian operations, as now in Haiti are used. Core of these units is around 100,000 tonnes each one carrier with nuclear propulsion and displacing up to seven to eight squadrons of aircraft. The battle group consists of up to ten ships. It includes in addition to the aircraft carrier six cruisers, destroyers and frigates, and two nuclear submarines. One of these frigates will be the “Hessen”, which is now at the Tirpitzmole.
The task of “Hesse” is located in the carrier association with the air defense. The German frigates of the class 124 were from the HDW shipyard, Blohm + Voss and built Nordseewerke. The “Hesse” is equipped with one of the most advanced command and weapons control systems of NATO.
A first taste of working with a “Carrier Strike Group got the 250 crew members of” Hesse “in the fall than it did for 21 days with the carrier” Dwight D. Eisenhower ‘practiced before the U.S. East Coast. The aim of this maneuver was to become familiar with the work procedures of such a union.
Pictures “F 221 Hessen” http://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/135260-Fregatte-Hessen-uebt-in-Kiel.html?em_art=gallery
gunner5″Realistically their role is closer to that of a cruiser.
With a displacement of 7,600-tonnes the Frigates 125 predicted the world’s largest frigates.
We also say in Germany “Kommando-Kreuzer” for long range plans for foreign adventures. But it´s a long time to 2016….the shipdesign of F125 will change again, sure… and gets bigger and bigger.
Just the for oldest F 122 class-frigates (F207 FGS Bremen, F208 FGS Niedersachsen, F209 FGS Rheinland-Pfalz, F210 FGS Emden) is planned to be replaced.
Frigates! Were I to die this moment, want of frigates would be found engraved on my heart
gunner5″News and graphics from the german F125-Frigates: Following a review of the relevant for the design of ships Rules had the ship’s draft F125 adapted and revised. The total Displacement will be about 7,600 tonnes and the length of the vessel will thereby to 149.52m increase…more (in german)http://www.dmkn.de/1779/ruestung.nsf/8A5FF8F3D0F72267C12576A1004491A0/$File/fregatte%20klasse%20125.pdf
gunner5″The new 6 Corvettes Typ K131 and 3 Joint Support Ship JSS for the German Navy are cancelled because of financing Senge. The stock of the fleet of 80 units long term risk…http://www.marineforum.info/html/dwt.html
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