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  • in reply to: Navies news from around the world -II #2015139
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    Of course, it is because of the “German guilt”…and this will be for ever…:mad:

    in reply to: Meko A-200 vs Formidable #2025693
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    Germany named its only “people” class 20 years after their death after three people who died during WW2 (Lütjens, Mölders, Rommel).

    Due to the … controversy of the name choice, every single German ship since then is named geographically. States, cities, towns for ships and larger boats, rivers and mountain ranges for supply ships, animals for smaller boats. And even that still incites people, considering Germans tend to think “regional”. Along the lines of “every federal state has to have one or two ships”. Iirc there’s only state without a ship ever named after it or a feature in it (Saarland).

    This is not right, what´s about this frigates under german flag (Hunt- und Black-Swan-Class):

    F 212 Gneisenau (ex-HMS Oakley L98/F168) 1958 – 1966
    F 213 Scharnhorst (ex-HMS Mermaid U30/F30) 1959 – 1968
    F 214 Hipper (ex-HMS Actaeon U07/F07) 1959 – 1964
    F 215 Graf Spee (ex-HMS Flamingo U03/F03) 1959 – 1964
    F 216 Scheer (ex-HMS Hart U58/F58) 1959 – 1967
    F 217 Raule (ex-HMS Albrighton L12/F112) 1959 – 1967
    F 218 Brommy(ex-HMS Eggesford L15/F15) 1959 – 1965

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -II #2025775
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    Hey, I would like to know your opinion about the TKMS MEKO MESHD concept for the German Navy:

    http://www.europeansecurityanddefence.info/Ausgaben/2008/3_2008/05_Bohlayer_Ball%e9/Bohlayer_Ball%e9_Kaeding_ESD_0308.pdf

    Regards
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    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -II #2026489
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    New Specifications for the German Navy´s Frigates Typ 125 (in german)

    http://www.strategie-technik.de/09-08/mar.pdf

    in reply to: Russian Navy News & Discussion Thread Part II #2026711
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    Russia may order amphibious assault ship from France

    Russia is planning to purchase a Mistral class large amphibious assault ship from France, a French business daily has said.

    According to La Tribune newspaper, the ongoing talks on the issue may result in an agreement as early as September.

    The purchase, if successful, would be the first large-scale arms import deal concluded by Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    Russia first expressed interest in bilateral cooperation with France in the sphere of naval equipment and technologies in 2008 when Navy chief Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky visited the Euronaval 2008 arms show in France.

    The admiral said then that the Russian Navy was interested “in joint research and also direct purchases of French naval equipment.”

    According to some sources, the possibility of buying a Mistral class amphibious assault ship was discussed at the naval show in St. Petersburg in June this year.

    A Mistral class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 vehicles including 13 main battle tanks, and 450 soldiers. The ship is equipped with a 69-bed hospital.

    The Russian Kommersant business daily confirmed on Tuesday the possibility of the deal but said Russian military experts were skeptical about it.

    “The Russian Navy lacks the means to finance even the production of corvettes and missile boats, let alone the purchase of large combat ships,” the paper quoted Mikhail Barabanov, science editor of the Eksport Vooruzheny (Arms Export) journal, as saying.

    “From this standpoint, the order of a large aircraft carrier with a deadweight of over 20,000 tons, which is inferior only to the sole Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, seems rather strange, to say the least,” the analyst said.

    Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Moscow-based Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said “although the practice of arms imports will become more common in Russia in the future, the Mistral deal is rather questionable from a military standpoint, as well as Russia’s hopes for the transfer of advanced technologies from France.”

    Russia’s current weapons procurement program through 2015 does not envision construction or purchases of large combat ships, so the possible acquisition of a French Mistral class ship is most likely to happen under the new program for the years up to 2020, which is still in the development.

    RIA Novosti

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2026741
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    First Assembly of Euro Hawk Unmanned Aircraft for Germany

    Northrop Grumman Corporation has finished assembling the first Euro Hawk unmanned aircraft system (UAS) for the German Ministry of Defence (MoD). With a wing span larger than a commercial airliner and endurance projected at up to 30 hours, the Euro Hawk will serve as the German Air Force’s and Navy´s high-altitude, long-endurance signals intelligence (SIGINT) system.

    The Euro Hawk is a derivative of the Block 20 Global Hawk, and will be equipped with a new SIGINT mission system developed by EADS Defence & Security (DS). The SIGINT system provides standoff capability to detect electronic intelligence radar and communications intelligence emitters. EADS DS will also provide the ground stations that will receive and analyze the data from Euro Hawk as part of an integrated system solution.

    “This on-time assembly of the Euro Hawk demonstrator reinforces our commitment to providing ground-breaking technology to our customers and solidifies our transatlantic cooperation with Germany and EADS DS,” said Jim Kohn, Northrop Grumman Euro Hawk program director. “We’re also on track for the Euro Hawk unveiling later this year at our Palmdale, Calif. manufacturing facility after additional checkout and systems testing, followed by first flight and delivery in 2010 in Germany.”

    Following successful testing and introduction in German operational service, Northrop Grumman anticipates subsequent systems will be delivered between 2016 and 2017. The Euro Hawk will replace the naval fleet of Breguet Atlantic aircraft, which have been in service since 1972.

    “We’re eager to receive the Euro Hawk and can’t wait to have this unmatched capability flying high above European skies at more than 60,000 feet and improving our troops’ safety during military deployments,” said Heiko Weiss, Euro Hawk program manager of the German Federal Office for Defence Technology and Procurement. “Developed to meet Germany’s need for airborne wide-area surveillance and reconnaissance, this system will surely transform the region’s situational awareness on land, air, and sea.”

    “This collaborative effort between Northrop Grumman and EADS DS on this first Euro Hawk is a great success and an excellent example of our transatlantic partnership,” said Heinz-Juergen Rommel, chief executive officer of the EuroHawk GmbH. “We are excited to welcome this magnificent UAS here in Germany.”

    On Jan. 31, 2007, the German MoD awarded a $559 million contract to EuroHawk GmbH, a 50-50 joint venture company formed by Northrop Grumman and EADS, for the development, test and support of the Euro Hawk unmanned SIGINT surveillance and reconnaissance system. Under the contract, EuroHawk GmbH will also provide aircraft modifications, mission control and launch and recovery ground segments, flight test and logistics support.

    EuroHawk GmbH is the national prime contractor for the German MoD through the entire lifecycle of the Euro Hawk system. The limited liability company is based in Immenstaad, Germany.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2027926
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    Major submarine order from Turkey

    On 2nd July 2009 a contract was signed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW), Kiel, a company of ThyssenKrupp Technologies, and MarineForce International LLP (MFI), London, for the delivery of six material packages for the construction of Class 214 submarines to Turkey.

    The contract was signed in Ankara in the presence of the Turkish Defence Minister Mehmet Vecdi Gönül, the Chairman of the Executive Board of ThyssenKrupp Technologies AG, Dr. Olaf Berlien, the Member of the Board of Executive of ThyssenKrupp Technologies AG, Dr. Hans Christoph Atzpodien, the Parliamentary State Secretary at the German Ministry of Defence, Thomas Kossendey, and the Chief of Naval Staff Vice-Admiral, Wolfgang E. Nolting.

    The six submarines to be equipped with an air independent propulsion system based on the HDW fuel-cell technology will be built by Gölçük Naval Shipyards (GNSY) near Izmit. The shipyard has already built 11 Class 209 submarines for the Turkish Navy.

    By placing this order, Turkey is another country to equip her navy with this at present most modern air independent submarine type. There will then be 36 submarines with HDW fuel cell propulsion systems in operation world-wide.

    Dr. Olaf Berlien underlines the importance of the new major order: “HDW’s position as world market leader in the sector of non-nuclear submarines will be further strengthened. The contract safeguards not only jobs at HDW, but also several hundred jobs at subcontractors all over Germany for some time to come.”

    by ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems Stand: 22.07.2009

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2032039
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    New dutch NH-90 Helicopter Still Too Heavy

    State Secretary of Defence Jack de Vries on Wednesday had “bad news” for the House of Commons, he said. The NH-90 helicopter ordered by the Ministry of Defence is still heavier than planned.

    NH Industries had announced to measures to reduce the helicopter’s weight, but these have not had the desired result. The weight of the aircraft has been a problem for years. This is important because the additional weight makes them too heavy to land on the Dutch navy frigates for which they are intended.
    The Netherlands decided in 1991 to participate in the NH-90 program, and ordered twenty [of the NFH-90 naval variant] which should have replaced the current Lynx ship-borne helicopters beginning in 2007.
    However, because of the recurring weight issue, that date has been moved back several times. The latest date for their initial delivery has now been pushed back to 2011, de Vries said.
    It is not possible to rule out further delays, nor to say what extra costs will arise from the delays, he added.

    defense-aerospace.com

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2032445
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    Mystery patrol craft starts trials out of Lurssen Werft yard

    The first of a new class of patrol craft believed to be destined for the Royal Brunei Navy (RBN) has commenced sea trials from German shipbuilder Lürssen Werft’s Bremen yard.

    Named Ijhtihad and bearing the pennant number 17, its construction has remained a closely guarded secret: neither Lürssen nor the Brunei government have ever acknowledged a contract for new vessels, although industry sources have for some time suggested that the Bremen yard was under contract to the sultanate for an undisclosed number of ships.

    Lürssen continues to refuse to comment on Ijhtihad . However, information transmitted by the vessel’s automatic identification system identifies the craft as being under the Brunei flag.

    http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jni/jni090520_1_n.shtml

    Here some pics: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=508111118

    in reply to: Hellenic Navy (News & Views). #2033815
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    German Type 214 ????

    HDW: Endlich Lösung im U-Bootstreit?

    Für das seit zwei Jahren bei HDW festliegende griechische U-Boot „Papanikolis“ könnte es eine Zukunft unter der deutschen Dienstflagge geben. Wie das britische Nachrichtenmagazin Jane’s berichtet, gibt es Überlegungen, das Boot in den Dienst der Deutschen Marine zu übernehmen. Wie berichtet, hatte Griechenland das Boot nicht abgenommen. Inzwischen summieren sich die Außenstände bei HDW auf 600 Millionen Euro. Die Werft HDW teilte mit, dass man an einer Lösung des Problems arbeite und dabei auch verschiedene Varianten in die Überlegungen einbeziehe. Zu Details der Lösungsmöglichkeiten mochte die Werft gestern noch keine Stellung nehmen. Die „Papanikolis“ könnte als U-Boot „U 37“ in die Flotte eingegliedertwerden.

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    HDW: Finally a solution to the U-Boat Controversy?

    For the past two years with HDW finds lying Greek submarine “Papanikolis” it could be a future service under the German flag type. As the British magazine Jane’s reported that there are considerations that the boat in the service of the German navy to take over. Reportedly, the boat Greece had not abated. Meanwhile, the total outstanding balance in HDW to 600 million euros. The shipbuilder HDW announced that a working solution of the problem and also different variations in the considerations. For details of the possible solutions I would love the yard yesterday, still no comment. The “Papanikolis” could serve as a U-boat “U 37” in the fleet.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2034517
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    German Navy must shut down new corvettes

    ….sorry, in german:

    Marine muss neue Korvetten stilllegen

    Schiffe fallen wegen Getriebeschäden für Auslandseinsätze aus

    Die Marine muss auf absehbare Zeit auf ihre neuen Korvetten des Typs K130 verzichten. Alle fünf Neubauten der als sehr innovativ geltenden Klasse wurden jetzt stillgelegt. Die aus der Schweiz stammenden Getriebe der Schiffe sind defekt.

    Der Befehlshaber der Marine braucht die fünf Neubauten der „Braunschweig“-Klasse händeringend für die Auslandseinsätze vor dem Libanon und im Anti-Piratenkampf. Die Korvetten sollten eigentlich bereits in diesem Jahr die überstrapazierten Fregatten entlasten. Doch daraus wird nun nichts. Die zum Stückpreis von 240 Millionen Euro durch den Bund bei den Werften TKMS und Lürssen bestellten Schiffe liegen still. Die MTU-Motoren wurden bereits für eine längere Liegezeit konserviert. Drei der fünf Schiffe traf dieses Schicksal sogar noch vor ihrer Indienststellung. Ursache sind Getriebeschäden.

    Entdeckt wurde das Problem bei Testfahrten auf der bei Blohm + Voss gebauten Korvette „Oldenburg“. Während dieser Fahrten fiel eine Schraube in die Zahnräder und verursachte erhebliche Schäden. Bei der anschließenden Fehlersuche stellte sich heraus, dass die Getriebe der neuen Korvetten eine ganze Reihe von zum Teil konstruktiven Mängeln aufweisen. Der Hersteller MAAG aus Winterthur in der Schweiz wurde deshalb von Marine und Arbeitsgemeinschaft K130 aufgefordert, bis zum 12. Juni ein Konzept zur Mängelbeseitigung vorzulegen. Die „Oldenburg“ und das Typschiff „Braunschweig“ wurden bereits in Hamburg aufgelegt.

    Ein Sprecher der ARGE, die aus dem Werftenverbund ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems und der Lürssen-Gruppe besteht, bestätigte den Kieler Nachrichten die Mängel und die Absicht, alle Getriebe auszubauen. Zu Kosten und Strafzahlungen machten weder Vertreter der Marine noch der Werften Angaben. Die Kosten dürften sich aber auf mehrere Millionen Euro belaufen.

    Angesichts der langen Liste der Mängel und der erforderlichen Prüf- und Erprobungszeiten für die überarbeiteten Getriebe wird die Marine die Korvetten vermutlich nicht vor dem Jahr 2011 operativ für Auslandseinsätze nutzen können. Die Erprobung der ersten Korvette kann nach Informationen der Kieler Nachrichten nicht vor Januar 2010 beginnen. Die volle Verfügbarkeit aller fünf Schiffe dürfte frühestens Mitte 2011 bestehen. Ursprünglich sollten die „Braunschweig“ und ihre vier Schwesterschiffe laut Bauvertrag bereits zwischen Mai 2007 und Februar 2009 in Dienst gestellt werden.

    in reply to: Russian Navy News & Discussion Thread Part II #2034956
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    Baltic Fleet helicopter crashes on deck of ship undergoing at-seatesting

    A Kamov Ka-27 helicopter crashed while landing on the deck of a new warship, the Yaroslav Mudry, the Baltic Fleet’s Military Investigation Department said in a press release.
    “The blades of a Ka-27 helicopter of a Baltic Fleet unit, based in the Kaliningrad region, struck against the Yaroslav Mudry’s superstructure as the helicopter was landing at about noon on Monday.
    The Ka-27 fell onto the deck and then slid down into the water and sank,” the press release says.
    “The ship’s services rescued the crew and the passengers – five people in all. The Yaroslav Mudry was undergoing at-sea testing, supervised by the Baltic shipyard Yantar, the manufacturer,” it says. “Discussing the damage done to the new ship would be premature,” the Yantar management told Interfax. “The shipyard director is in Baltiisk, where the ship will arrive to be examined by experts. But tentatively, the damage was not serious, because the helicopter had not fallen flat on the deck and did not catch fire. But some structures could have been smashed and the landing site damaged. Experts will analyze details,” he said.
    The helicopter crashed around 10 kilometers from the coast, Interfax earlier reported.

    in reply to: Russian Navy News & Discussion Thread Part II #2035686
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    Nice videos from the russian navy….

    Admiral Kuznetsov
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLe5ttSHo4

    Russian jet fall from the carrier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFjmEM-vHXw&feature=related

    Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier and CVBG in a heavy storm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBVG7HUhT8&feature=related

    Russian Navy Ships and aircraft In Action(Rammstein-Sonne)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1pRdNSSTJs&feature=related

    Mig-29K. Admiral Kuznetsov carrier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSTEvXgusA&feature=related

    greetings 😉

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2036121
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    MH90 vs. CH148: German Navy Replacing Sea Lynx and Sea King helicopter

    The German Navy will soon reach a product decision regarding the new Maritime Helicopter (MH) programme, a Navy official told defpro.com. The new copters are urgently needed to replace the aging Sea Lynx and, even more so, the Sea King helicopter types which are in service since 1975 with the Naval Air Squadron 5 at Kiel-Holtenau.

    The German Navy’s Sea King Mk 41 primarily serves for emergency air sea rescue and patrol and was formerly also equipped with four external Sea Skua missiles for combat missions. This capability was then transferred to the Sea Lynx Mk 88A, whose usual roles include Anti-Submarine (ASW) and Anti-Surface Warfare (AUSW) as well as troop and cargo transport.

    Unifying the different roles of the Sea Lynx and the Sea King has been carried over into the requirements for the new helicopter.

    The German Federal Office of Defence Technology and Procurement (Bundesamt fur Wehrtechnik and Beschaffung, BWB) issued an RFI (request for information) on November 11, 2008 to the industry for a cost estimate for 30 naval helicopters with delivery starting in 2015. The RFI also includes the request for a corresponding training and maintenance concept. According to the BWB, a contract may be signed in 2011.

    Based upon the Navy’s requirement, 30 new copters are needed which should be able to perform ASW and ASuW missions as well as Search and Rescue (SAR) and Special Ops Support operations, mainly from naval ships such as the F125 frigates, which are expected to enter service in 2015. The aircraft will be equipped for day and night operations and should be able to cope with adverse weather and severe ship motion conditions.

    NHIndustries (NHI), a joint company of Eurocopter, AgustaWestland and Stork Fokker responded on February 27 to the RFI saying the estimated cost for 30 such helicopters would be €1.8 billion with deliveries from 2015-2020. According to NHI, the maritime derivative of the NH90 medium sized, twin-engine, multi-role military chopper, the MH90, will fulfill all requirements of the German Navy.

    Dr. Clive Schley, Vice President & NAHEMA Programme Coordination Manager, Eurocopter Deutschland GmbH told defpro that the MH90 would be a perfect solution for the German Navy since the similar NH90 is in service with the national Air Force as well as Army. “With this fleet homogeneity, synergies in maintenance and during foreign deployments will lead to cost savings,” he said.

    Technical problems which the MH programme has faced in the past, such as with the landing gear, radar and navigation systems, have mostly been solved, Schley said.

    However, these problems have resulted in a delay of the entire programme which has lead to a reopening of the competition by the German Navy. A Navy official who declined to be identified stated that the Sikorsky’s CH148 – a variant of the four-bladed, twin-engine, medium lift H-92 Superhawk, would be a logical alternative. According to defence analysts, the Sikorsky aircraft should be cheaper than the NHI model and 30 CH-148s may cost around €1.3 billion. The German MoD has invested €250 million in the MH90 research and development (R&D) so far. If they would decide to change their original choice they had to pay an additional €250 million to the NHI partners as compensation, which would nearly equalize the costs.

    The CH-148 Cyclone is manufactured for the Canadian Forces’ (CF) Maritime Helicopter Project and will also have the needed capabilities including anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare, search and rescue, as well as troop and cargo transport. Beyond that, it will be fully equipped for ship-based operations including automatic blade and tail fold systems and a deck to aircraft recovery assist system. The Canadian programme, however, is suffering from massive delays that do not seem to contribute to the aircraft’s credibility.

    Both aircraft are equipped with advanced all-electric fly-by-wire (FBW) flight control system, whereas the MH90 system is already qualified and the CH-148 has just started flight tests.

    One of the main differences between the two copters is the size: The MH90 is 16.13 meters long and has a transport capability of 2500 kg. The Cyclone is longer, at 20.9 meters, and has a transport capability of 7200 kg, thus more internal space is available for the installation of mission equipment.

    According to the German Navy, the new helicopter should be able to perform the above mentioned mission simultaneously, meaning it should always be equipped with all equipment including dipping sonar and torpedoes. While the MH90 in the currently planned configuration will not be able to fulfil this requirement, the size could result in the largest advantage of the US -built helicopter, however, its size could also be its major problem: The chopper seems to be too large for most of the hangars within the vessels where it is to be deployed. It is not foreseen that the MH90 will be accommodated in the hangars of the F122 and F123 frigates. These vessels will depend on the Lynx until they reach the end of their service life around 2020. The F124 will need a minor modification on its hangar to handle the MH90, while the F125 hangars were designed with the MH90 in mind.

    The Cyclone, however, will certainly be too large for these frigates and could only operate from the Combat Support Vessels.
    529 NH90 has been ordered by 14 nations so far, including 111 in the naval version. 25 helicopters have been delivered to its customer since 2007, while 100 are in production. Future NFH operators include Australia, Belgium, France, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden (as SAR version).

    india-defence.com

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world #2036127
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    http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_090426-N-3973P-001.jpg

    Mexican Military Commandos rappel onto the Federal Republic of Germany guided missile frigate Sachsen (F 219) during a boarding training exercise during the 50th iteration of UNITAS Gold

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