Roger, I remember you and your team around the Victor on Sunday’s at Duxford, and clearly you had a lot of enthusiasm and knowledge of the Victor – without which I doubt it would of lasted this long. And although I don’t know the ins and outs of why you and the IWM parted company – would there be any chance of you resurrecting some sort of involvement with XH648 again, if asked to do so?
Rob
thanks for the thought but I have retired from that sort of thing after 31 years being involved in Victors and still involved with Victors only on paper this time
Roger Brooks
I looked after XH648 from 1977 to 1992 and repainted her in 1989 in gloss paint after that IWM Chris Chippington wanted it sprayed in Matt Varnish 6 months later she started to peal and my team were asked to repaint her out in the open we were also stopped from running the hydraulics and PFRC,s for safety reasons so we left her to the IWM and left Duxford after a discussion with Chris Knapp
There a no flap actuators on 648 the flaps are totally hydraulic
Roger Brooks
The only thing I have on 963 is I flew with her as Ground Crew to KIA TAK Via Labuan and returned direct to Changi 4 days later in a10hr 5min Flight time> I have few photos stored away and one of her flying down the coast of New Zealand in 1970 My total flying with Shacks of 205 was 69 hrs in 2 years
In these aircraft WR963,,WL 757,WL790,Wl795,WL798 WL741,WR960
Trenchard Brat
The 2C is a factious item and was probably originated in some article written to confuse people. I spent two years with 205 Squadron at RAF Changi and the designation for our aircraft was Shackleton Mk 2 Phase3 and nothing else my reference is the Form 700 for WL798.
Goose Bay
Thanks for the advice I don’t dream about aircraft being made flyable especially the Victor as it came good at Widewake for the Falklands Operation Corporate Task and Bahrain for Operation Granby the only RAF aircraft too archive a 100% tasks carried out they never let the Tornadoes etc down
Surely it is XM715 There is nothing left at Woodford So why all this thought of returning one to fly both 231and 715 are privately owned and I cannot see them supporting the idea any case who would undertake the task I understand that there is no hangar space at either location. Leave the two Victors to the owners to do as they wish with them a great aircraft I spent 12 years with them at Marham and it was the Highlight of my career to fly in all the versions of the tankers especially the K2and the crew chiefs seat put in at Woodford for those who had to fly with them the best seat in the aircraft
Thanks for the info on the C130 I would prefer the Victor any day to the C130 as we had the best seat in a K2 between the pilots much better than the Herc seats any day my longest flight 9hrs 40min.Marham to Offutt non stop
Faster than a civil airliner any day
I think VC10 one was a case of doing all the different trade VC10 courses at Brize. The engine one was 6 weeks.
The Victor Crew Chief Course was 7 Months at 3 different locations the Conway 20101 side of it was a week
Thanks for not leaving my item Blank
Trenchard brat 86th
They already have permission to erect another T2 hangar on the site, and there is quite a bit more room than you may think. A Vulcan would add to an already enviable collection of cold war jets that Elvington has.
They had permission for another and purchased a T2 however it appears that permission was not granted or there was a lack of finance available or the state of the new hangar was not good and there it stood in the corner of the museum
Trenchardbrat
Wish it could go to Elvington it would be able to ground run on their long runway next to 2 other iconic cold war jets(4 engined) drum up money for the museum at such events and they could build the hangar of learning on an airfield that is hardly over developed ,infact build it big enough to house or service the other live jets.Lets get all the historic jets together not spread out where you cant afford to travel to regularly.
Planning permission was applied for by the owner on a couple of occasions to build hangars for commercial aircraft of the business type this was refused by the local authorities on a couple of occasions.
Trenchard Brat
Wish it could go to Elvington it would be able to ground run on their long runway next to 2 other iconic cold war jets(4 engined) drum up money for the museum at such events and they could build the hangar of learning on an airfield that is hardly over developed ,infact build it big enough to house or service the other live jets.Lets get all the historic jets together not spread out where you cant afford to travel to regularly.
Elvington Runway is 10,000 long but the surface is not in a good condition. There is 6,000ft tarmac covering done in the 1980,s for the JP to use on a daily basis. The airfield is privately owned and as far as I am aware the museum has to apply to use it each time they want to use it. There were no facilities the last time I was there. The museum is running out of space and I doubt if they wanted the Vulcan along with its entourage and supporters. Still we can but wait and see
Trenchardbrat
There is only one hangar at Elvington and that hangar does not have a strong enough floor and the access to it is the same construction. If a new hangar was built it would the Victor and the Nimrod. You would also require a large storage facility for spares etc.!!!!!
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And Don’t intend to be Safer were I am
I was in a Boeing 707 with my family as I saw the Lancaster as we taxied to the runway .If I can find that photo I will try and put it on the forum at the moment I cannot remember its location.
Trenchard Brat