insomnia.delhiI don’t think so UAE or Saudi Arabia or anyother country for that matter will ever come in help of Pakistan in case of War. Because India has having rapid rate of good relationship building with many Middle eastern country and UAE-SA are forefront at it. Unless India start war and create invasion like scenario then I think many nations would love to remain neutral as has always been the case.
Can not say always the escalation in 71 saw Jordan, Turkey, and Iran supplying weapons secretly.
insomnia.delhiIf Argentina even purchase a Su-xx plane, along with S-300, and upgrades its Navy with a whole lot of Amphibious ships and what not, wont the UK just send over some F-35/Typhoons/Tornados along with some Marines/Army and some ships of their own to Falklands? Just convert the Island into a Aircraft carrier, and an unsinkable one at that.
They have already sent over some Eurofighters.
After that what will be the motivation left for an assault.
UK really doesn’t seem to require much more than the military it is going to retain (may be they could even cut more and still be OK), the government must have thought about what it requires from its military power in the coming decades.
insomnia.delhiit’s a little sad to see the gorshkov name on a piddly frigate. the man deserves a heavy cruiser or a SSBN at the minimum to carry his name.
I agree, and a SSBN will be a fitting tribute, perhaps even a permanent class?
insomnia.delhiUSN & a conventional carrier lighter than 100,000T? Is that even possible?
I agree with the blog (Robert Farley), Brazil is the only option available, if any.
insomnia.delhi:confused:
colonial attitude of a waning economy, man if UK has a waning economy then i want to have a waning economy here.
You’re stating rumours as fact. Where’s the evidence that IAC 2 will have EMALS? All I’ve seen is internet speculation, with those speculating citing each other as sources.
Quoting Admiral Verma (currently in-charge) from a couple of news bits:
All from 2009
“We are re-looking at the design. It won’t be a copy of what we have today,”
”It will be much bigger and capable of operating fighters, AEW (airborne early-warning) aircraft, tankers( :confused: ) etc,”
However he has also stated that:
”We hope to run Vikramaditya for 40 years,”
@2.5 billion dollars they will have to run the ship for 40 years, no choice other than that, i thought once three IAC carriers are completed IN could retire the Vikramaditya, or use it as a training resource, however now it seems it will be around for my lifetime, just not worth it for that much time.
The former chief of naval staff Sureesh Mehta stated (not in a official capacity) that: “When catapult technology improves, we are looking at building conventional carriers with electric rather than steam catapults,”
Combine all that and you have the reason people state EMALS and all.
insomnia.delhiJust found a text about that… curious in the text the odds of an future buyer Brazil is the winner with 3-1 chance
Here is the full text
I will like to sail in Carla Bruni carrier, every one will like to. 😀
Brazil might prefer to build one up, depends on their requirement, if they need just one ship of the class then its better to buy the British Carrier, they wont get a more advanced ship ready for the coming 4-5 decades anywhere else, Fitted with EMALS and all that electricity- its future proof, and when people are cutting their losses they sell on the cheap (relatively).
Although RN gains nothing from selling a carrier, might as well keep the two ships and have the assurance of having a carrier operational at all times, no need to equip both of them for simultaneous operations.
insomnia.delhiPAF guys must be happy that they are getting many beefy real fighters with actual meat :diablo:
if Pakistan and India ever come to war again (god forbid the former mughal empire provinces do that again..).. will the UAE and Saudi Arabia send its pilots or aircraft?
These block-52s represent the high end in air to air/ground/sea, so i think yeah, they would be more than happy.
What platforms would have the nuclear delivery role? I think the US ones with all the inspectors and software control will be out, Mirage’s may be?
UAE, Turkey, Saudi… etc. etc. That depends on big daddy, USA 😀
On their own all the oil block has to is to twist the arm about oil and India has to yield, no need to send weapons, however anything like that will push the region into a new alliance/blocks which will hurt US efforts in the region, and what US wants US gets, so slim chance of any planes being shipped off to Karachi.
insomnia.delhiWhat will happen to the quota of F-35Bs that the UK was going to procure? Is there a system in this program where different nations get different slots/number of planes coming out of production?
insomnia.delhiIs a breakdown of the program available, as in the breakdown of tests and validations with corresponding prototypes that will do them?
insomnia.delhiBecause if you don’t have a stand-off weapon you have to get within range of the ships sensors & weapons, & a warship has much more of both than you have. LO doesn’t make you invisible or invulnerable, just harder to see.
Will the LO degrade the Ship based sensors performance well enough for a plane like that to just use guided bombs (something like the JDAM)? I believe they will be much cheaper than a specific weapon with propulsion, seekers and electronics to support all of that.
Maybe they are downsizing in preparation for an integrated European military…
What about issues on which the government will have to take an independent stand? a European military might have far too many disagreement to be enough for a single nation?
insomnia.delhiJapan has had its own anti ship missiles for many years, for air, land, & ship launch.
Yes i saw that through google, was talking about the one that is under development.
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Air-Launched-Weapons/ASM-3-XASM-3-Japan.html
In terms of subsonic stealthy designs, it seems their requirements are for a supersonic one, i think another recent supersonic anti ship missile is from Taiwan, online articles say its a modification of previous design.
With a LO plane with so many modern passive sensors (the F-35) what is the need of a anti ship missile (NSM for F-35)?
insomnia.delhiAnd what about the NSM?
In terms of design, this seems to be the latest amongst all the anti ship missiles.
Is any other nation taking a similar approach towards the development of anti ship missiles? (I think Japanese firms were in the process of developing a anti shipping missile)
insomnia.delhiIndia To Sign Mirage Upgrade Deal
Oct 19, 2010
By Neelam Mathews [email]mathews.neelam@gmail.com[/email]
NEW DELHIAfter years of vacillation and wrangling, India is now set to sign a $2-billion deal with Dassault to upgrade 51 aging Mirage 2000 fighters to the 2000-5 standard.
The deal is expected to be signed Dec. 6 when French President Nicolas Sarkozy visits India. Ahead of Sarkozy’s trip, Adm. Edouard Guillaud, French chief of defense staff, will be in India on Oct. 23 to discuss bilateral defense cooperation.
I forget the number of news articles on India about to sign the Mirage-2k upgrade deal, must be a quarterly affair.
They should have gone for the limited Israeli and HAL upgrade while drafting the MMRCA tender. Would have helped in the problem of operating too many types of aircraft. Its confusing, does not seem like the best use of available money.
LCA should have been a Mig21 replacement, nothing more. A point defence fighter capable of air refueling with BVR capability with good communication equipment/networking. Everybody from IAF to ADA to MoD is responsible for LCA troubles IMHO. I think its RCS is already better than anything currently operated by IAF. People who are saying LCA should be Mig23, Mig27, Jaguar and whatnot replacement are actually against LCA. It is only a small airframe….
True, the block/mark method of improving an aircraft while its in service was the best method for the program, this is what happens when one takes too many risks, everyone involved have to live with it now and make sure their are no more delays.
insomnia.delhiIts funny how the US calls F-16s with BVR missiles tools to fight terrorism, along with maritime patrol planes armed with anti ship missiles, anti tank missiles, anti aircraft missiles, fire finder radars etc. etc.
Man those must be some well equipped terrorists, wait a minute……. did the US just call us terrorists?:mad:
They have to give Pakistan military aid, as long as they are active in Afghanistan, and other nations will continue selling them weapons for $’s, that should not effect our decision to procure the military hardware we need, if the best product for our requirement is US then so be it, outside of this little mess of a neighborhood we have lots of issues where we have to cooperate with the western alliance.
insomnia.delhiTwo Indian posters: yes, you are right, 5th gen doesn’t change military balance :D. And yes, GS is my private blog 😀 And yes I just talk about 5th gen being mythical dragons 😀 And while we are at it, the LCA is a great success story too. Please don’t let me stop your party. Anything else you want to add, please feel free – MCA, MRCA, Bollywood movies, IT superpowership.. you guys are truly amazing. Just tell your Indian buddies to stop hounding me and sending me obscene emails.
Seriously, wish you were a bit more confident and stop worrying about what others are saying. As it stands, India is doing great and I sincerely believe that as long as India doesn’t screw it up, and Pakistan continues down the path it is going, in 10 years India would be the reigning power of the Indian ocean with its influence ranging from Vietnam to the shores of Africa and Pakistan at best a malfunctioning country perpetually on the verge of bankruptcy, and a fellow under developed nation to my country of Bangladesh (and we actually may outstrip them). While India will be receiving the first consignments of the PAKFA, Pakistan would not be able to afford a 5th gen. Guys like me are God Willing trying to change that but we barely have a sliver of a shadow of a hope. And Allah knows best.
Yes i will post an order to end your harassment on the command screen, with my express approval, provided you enlist as a recruit, we shall assimilate you (Evil Laugh Bwhahahahahaha!!!)
A fifth generation plane for e.g PAK-FA is not really going to change things on the ground, where all the real combat is fought, the air force is there to ensure that the ground troops can be free to do their thing, that and to bomb fuel and weapons dumps.
A Plane designed to be less visible to radars is going to change how the AF achieves its objectives, the LO part is just another way to increase the survivability of the plane.
I think the war fighting capacity of a weapon can not be independent of the complete war machine(Army, AF, Navy, Supplies, Reserves, Border guards, etc. etc. etc.), or in other words that there have to simply be more reasons to invest in a fifth generation plane.
Indian decision to invest into FGFA and in the 200-300 nos as is being quoted, is inflated, unless they see the threats around them being capable of fielding an intensive air defense network which makes it impossible for planes to operate (A land war between RoI and PRC is now impossible due to the deterrence achieved through mutual military capacity and the terrain along the border), or they want to stretch their opponents wallet to the limits, may be they predict a massive deployment of fifth generation planes in the region.
However this is about the future PRC project, I think for Pakistan investing into the development stage will not be a wise move, the money is better spent at improving other capabilities that matter right now, and when the time comes i am sure they can find enough money to purchase what they need, one must remember the military has a lot of say in the states governing mechanism.
From PRC side, they already have planes to sell, why invest in yet another before 2020, especially another one that might not fit their military needs?
Rajnikant knows best, all praise be to him. The mighty Rajni allowed us to live.
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