Very nice article to inform people about the whole sat business, Is the publishing agency leftist/communist?

Why would I sing the British national anthem?

I find it hilarious just reading you indian fanboy posts and all the delusional drival about “indiginous” developments, here are some classic jokes which have made me laugh over the years…

Downgraded Leopard mark1 mascarading as the Arjun…over 20 years of development and even the indian army reject it 😀 cant even license build a German tank with all the support available.

Modified SA-6 Gainful mascarading as the Akash missile…wtf is the big deal? taken you that long to license copy a soviet era SAM?

License production of the EuroCopter BK-117 mascarading as the “Advanced” Light Helicotper…

why would I be angry? man, you clowns have been providing me with so much entertainment over the years, I just look forward to all the dhoti waving that has yet to come 😀

So tanks, SAMs, helicopters, and dhotis

While talking of PAFs capability in a Indian space and missile discussion.

Right, one Brit you are.

And i am the clown here?

While some if not most of the mirages are BVR capable, the PAF have never really released any details as to which BVR missile they could employ. My guess would be a derivative of a South African missile, given the close association with other air-launched weapons. However, in general, the PAF have kept most people guessing, which is a better weapon than any perhaps. If the claims by indian fanboys here regarding the indian “inteligence” is anything to be believed, then perhaps the indians should know more about the BVR capabilities of the PAF than anyone..lol

A plane with BVR missiles and a BVR capable plane are two seperate things, to have BVR missiles you need to buy and integrate them to the plane.

Why would a airforce keep its weapons secret in a neighborhood as limited as ours, the whole point is to deter before attacking.

To deny iaf the use of Pakistani airspace, the PAF would primarily rely on its extensive ground network of radar and early warning stations and engage the iaf within visual range, on PAF’s terms, a tactic eluded to by the former ACM in previous AFM interviews.

The PAF have also been working on anti-BVR combat training, although what this actually means is anyones guess. No one is saying the PAF will have any easy time agianst the iaf, but given previous experiences, the iaf won’t be able to dominate either.

The apparent “accidental” incursion of a batch of iaf fighters at multiple points along the border in the aftermath of the bombay attacks, with an immediate reponse by the PAF and reported lockons by PAF fighters, only goes to show the type response which could be expected by the PAF.

If the iaf were so confident about their potential, why haven’t they carried out their “surgical” strikes against Pakistan? Assuming they ever get that far that is…

Well if it helps you, Ex-Cope India were exactly like this scenario, USAF fighters w/o BVR shots or AWACS fighting off a numerically larger force (InAF) in defensive missions directed by ground control.

Is there any study available online that assesses what the piracy in that region is costing the global community versus the cost of stationing a permanent force large enough to deter the pirates?

If it’s already been posted I’m sure someone will tell me. This was sent by a friend in Florida. The Obama myth of his “anti-pirate decisiveness” is greater than the reality.

Since when did people start taking chain mail seriously? (….. i think you forgot to add the “send this mail to all your friends and you will win a million dollars, if you fail to do so, you will die in 7 days”)

Again, quite simplistic thinking. I don’t think the scenario of the USAF during GFI is comparable with the Indo/Pak scenario. First of all, the USAF was hunting down scuds in an entire country.

The same does not apply to the Pak/Inia scenario. As you mentioned above, even if the prithvi was within 100km of the indo-pak border, most valuable targets would be in its range. That already defines an area where most prithvi launches are likely to take place, providing an area for the PAF to concentrate on.

What is the area that you are talking of (its a huge border).
USAF had more intelligence gathering capability (from a whole lot of sources) than india and Pakistan together (in todays world) in both iraq wars.

Given the number of UAVs, AWACS and other intelligence sources, in combination with long range standoff weapons, the PAF doesnt need to gain air superiority in indian airspace. It could operate within its own borders and still target potential prithvi launch sites.

Have you seen the ground resolution that a AWAC gives at 100 km distance?
(i dont think any AWAC or AEW plane is supposed to give anything useful at that distance)
In all probability when a operational number of planes with well trained crews start service they will be flying well inside the border outside of the range of any weapons looking at the air picture (what they are supposed to do) and making sure no surprise strike takes place from any direction.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jstars/

UAVs show up on radar, need to receive and send data, and can get shot down.

Collecting that much of intelligence will be a huge effort, it will require a lot of resources.

A better task for the long ranged weapons will be targeting the huge numbers of ‘fixed’ military targets in India.

This article sounds like India is going to build just one 40,000 ton IAC. Which, would be followed by a much larger 65,000 design! (though very similar)

No if you look at the news report and then look at where the three IAC are supposed to go you would know why a larger carrier is in consideration.

Three IAC go to two AC groups in the two fleets.

These are conventional powered medium sized carriers that are tasked with providing air defence to the groups and to support intensive helicopter operations.

The area of operation of the two fleets is not that far from India and it is also one of the busiest sea routes.

Now what do you think two separate larger AC which will translate into one AC group will be tasked with?

Of course its just a idea that will be followed by increasing the capacity of a domestic shipyard to handle such a ship, and probably happen around when the IAC project completes, and will be preceded by a concept study first and a request for funds. (post 2022).

This is what Mr. Aroor overheard on his recent trip to CSL

The keel of India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, to be the second warship christened INS Vikrant, will be laid on February 28 at Kochi. But it is now clear that while Cochin Shipyards will build three aircraft carriers in the current 37,500-ton category (the second and third are to be christened INS Viraat and INS Vishaal apparently), design work has already begun in earnest to develop and build two more aircraft carriers with not only much larger displacements, but possibly nuclear propulsion as well.

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/02/cochin-shipyard-to-build-5-aircraft.html

I think what the rumors are pointing towards is that it is under consideration and by no means a certain project, the IAC itself was under consideration for a long long time.