The Flanker’s radar at least was far more powerful than anything the west had at the time. Needless to mention the unprecedented at that time HMS and IRST, not to be found in any (or just a handful) western airctaft? Both aircraft you mentioned were not made to be techno-savvy, just capable enough to win a war rather than maintain peace. If the mission computer’s processor of the Fulcrum was a few Mhz slower the the F-16, it would make no difference during a duel.

– F 14 radar was more powerfull than Flanker one; not to mention the capabilkity;
– HMD was not “unprecedented” the first operational HMS was fileded on US Navy F 4 Phantom 10 years before Su 27;
– I don’t know how on earth some posters think that the Russians invented the IRTS? The first IRST was on F 101 “Voodoo” in 1962. All the USAF fighters un til F 4 (F 101, F 102, F 106, F 4) and all the US Navy Fighters until F 14 (F8, F4, F14) had IRSTs. Tht’s ~ 10,000 of them iin total. F4 alone was built in over 5,500 exemplaries and all had IRST.

I think the sentinel R1 was on time and cost same with the Shadow R1

I was talking about manned fighters.
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Is there a current, still valid source which confirms that? I have read that it was planned in the past, but got the impression it was canceled or at least further postponed on cost grounds and due other priorities.

Unfortunaltelly, no. The source wasin fencecheck.com, before USAF security guys red “Dozer” posts and forced the site to erase them :D. He said that the MIDS “are there” (I suppose Elemndorf AFB) but not yet installed.

😀

Unfortunately, we have to keep reminding everyone that the price is going up, because of the large number of Lockheed Martin fanboys who insist, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that the F-35 is the great exception, & the price is known & fixed.

I am not one of the LockMart pool of fanboys that believe in fixed price; however, I am sure that the full-production F 35 will be less expanesive than some people (quoting LRIP price) think.
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But MADL would replace the IFDL, so are there no plans to replace the F-22’s JTIDS?

As I said in a previous post, in 2013 the F 22 will receive a full Link 16 (MIDS) capabil=ty, instead the present receiver-only.

Of course they will, no doubt taking a lead from this very forum- having exorcised that Demon of Stupidity (with wall-eye vision), who claimed the inlets were straight through.

Then the nonsensical, die-hard PAK-FA detractors will be left with the fickle, loose change arguments like ‘look at those rivets!! that IRST & engine nozzles don’t look stealthy…’

Hey, relax, it was a joke, Kopp did an “assesment” of F 35 stealth to laugh of. The irony was directed to APA idiots, not to PAK-FA.

BTW, if someone doubt/question the last russian wonder/uber/hyper fighter, is not a “detractor”. Cool down…

The F-22 is getting MADL, not Link16.

MADL is directional and Ku-band, not L-band so the PAK FA’s L-Band antennas are useless to intercept or jam the datalink.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/04/15/325156/usaf-selects-datalink-to-bridge-communications-gap-between-f-22-and.html

Both F 35 and f 22 will get both Link 16 and MADL.

Well it’s not a plastic LEGO toy, is it? 😮

More clever people than both of us, said that is a pasive element for locating L-band datalinks (Link 16) standard on US and NATO fighters. But , hey maybe you know better…