😀 If you want to play that uncalled for game – we both know which aircraft will end up built in larger numbers. (Hint: The one that hasn’t been canceled!) 😀

-at this moment there is no firm order for the PAK-FA. the russians are in the same point the US was in 1991 when the YF 22 was declared the winner of the ATF competitions;

-2 years from now F 22 will still be in production to fulfill the 187 ordered so far; are you so sure that if the PAK-FA will prove more dangerous that thought, the production can’t be continued?

I think that US is more worried about the Chinese JXX than the Russian PAK-FA. Whith a GNP 4 times the Russian one, who is going to afford more 5th gen fighters?

The Raptors side bays have rear firing missiles in them as well. They’re called AIM-9X.

Not in this moment. AIM 9X will be integrated only in 2015.

You are assuming the enemy stealth fighter is emitting anything. What if it’s not?! Yes, it’s a fancy RWR/fire-control unit. There’s no harm in calling it that.

An RWR will give you the direction of the signal. An ESM (like the ALR 94 of the F 22, the ASQ 239of the F 35, Spectra of the Rafale, the “Falcon Edge” of the F 16 blk. 60, the ALQ 218 of the EF 18) will give you the geolocation, including the distance (and speed for airborne radars) of the emmiter. And yes, if the enemy fighter (stealth of not) won’t emmit, the RWR/ESM/ wouldn’t work.

The ALR-94 is a nice piece of equipment, but here’s several things to think about:

It’s basically a RWR that can guide the APG-77 in LPI to guide an AMRAAM

… this means that the APG-77 is going to emit, and LPI or not, this is an emission, and you can bet your left nut that the PAK-FA is going to have a hell of an RWR system installed to counter other LPI radars.

If fact, ALR 94 is considered the most sophisticated equipment of the Raptor, even more than the APG 77. Certainly, more expensive. If an ennemy fighter does emmit, the ALR 94 will pick at impresive distance (Sweeteman said ~ 450 km in the case of a fighter radar). It will geolocate the target, not only finding the direction as a “normal” RWR, but also the distance and speed. Closer (that means within the AMRAAM range), ALR 94 could cue the AMRAAM without using the APG 77.

Hardly “basicallly a RWR”…

No, the F-22A aren’t developet for high Mach numbers, LM put the effort and money in all other capability..
In fact the high power engines in F-22 are somewhat poor on fuel economy, particulary in AB.

Any “high power” engine is “poor on fuel economy”, “particulary in AB”…

I’ve taken your advice and did some reading and this is what I came up with: The Russians built an one-of-a-kind MiG-21 technology demonstrator that has a RCS of 0.25 sq m.

The original article was published in Nov. 2003. Apparently it has been taken off online
http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/4-2003/interview/?sess_=4e4563b23abbc3a7be9f31cc67ef52e8

.25 sq.m is not stealth

If you bothered reading real- unbiased articles by the Gov it’s self, you’d notice the stealth the U.S. had wouldn’t/hasn’t given an advantage over Russia in a war, the U2 was shot down, the SR-71 was intercepted by MiG-31’s 169 times in the 80’s, the last straw was Su-27’s detecting (the SR-71) and coming for an interception in 89 over Finland, the B-2 needs to be escorted by no less than 50 fighters, to the target, going against Rus tech I can assure you, the U.S. famous “STEALTH” will not work.

Then, why the f**k ther Russians spent so much efforts to replicate it?

Sukhoi employs 28,000 engineers. UAC employs 120,000+ people in total. You real think huge glaring things like this escaped the attention of all of them?

My friend, Lockheedmartin employs 140,000 highly skilled scientists, engineers and workers, and NorthropGrumman 120,000 of them. Not to mention that thier resources dwarfs the entire russian aerospace industry. Yet, those ‘little” details did not stop posters on this forum (and others) to question the F 22 and F 35. Some of the doubts were right (many fixsed by these corporation), others were not.

So, if a poster has some doubts about a prototype, of a new design, in a a totally new field for the Russians (stealth), that just made 40 min first flight, try to answer him with facts; maybe he just doesn’t share your excitement, that’s all.