so? how many MICAs were fired on real targets? nad when F-35 comes to service, thingies like the meteor would have been in se’rvice for several years already, much better weapon.
That’s exactly what I said myself. How do you know that MICA/R 77/R 27 would perform better? In fact, considering that few countries can test missiles as exhaustively as US, one can be sure that non-US missiles would do worst. And the AMRAAM D (now fielded on F 22 and F 18E) or future JDRAM are not the same as AMRAAM “A” or “B”, the only ones that have been used in anger so far. So judging the Pk of a new missile such the “D” based on Pk of earlier variants is childish.
And you’ll fire the AMRAAM D against what? even the eurocanards present sufficiently low observable targets that you may have trouble radar locking at a long range. And if you count on an AWACS doing the job for you (finding your target and giving coordinates for shoooting), that can work either way too.
US planes vs. Euros is not a very plausible scenario. However, as unlikely it may seem, let’s fantasize about: if you consider that the VLO and sensors of F 22/F35 are matched by EF/Rafale, yes “it can work either way too”…
Well, B-17s downed loads of messerschmitts in WWII, were they good fighters? The F-105 is a strike aircraft. If a Mig presents itself in front of it and doesn’t pay attention enough, a good pilot can line it up and score a kill… if the Mig starts turning to fight it, the F-105 had only one way to deal with it: run. They simply were made for another type of job.
F 105 was not a bomber with 10 machine guns spreaded along the fuselage. It’s a fighter bomber, less maneuvrable than a MiG; still this didn’t stop the 105 to shot down MiGs.
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My bet in A-A would be
1. F-22A (100%)
2/3. PAK-FA / J-XX no idea how the latter will look like (80%)
4. F-35 (65%)
5/6. AESAed Typhoon / Rafale (55%)
7. Su-35S (50%)I’d be surprised if I hit all % points accurately but you get the picture..
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::FLEX, THAT’S THE FIRST TIME EVER YOU RANK F 35 ABOVE THE EURO-XXX !!!!!
I’m in shock ! You’ve been bribed by LM !:D
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ok, let’s see, projections, projections and projections again…
now, reality check:
– even the latest missiles didn’t have such a fantastic PK even when shot against targets unable to detect they’ve been locked or shot at,
At least, AMRAAM does have a Pk !!!! Since it’s the only active-guided, datalinked missile that ever scored !
you plan to shoot at far range and turn back? your nozzle pointing to your oponent will be the most perfect target to any half modern IR missile on the planet
Except that most of them are short-raged ones…So, turning after firing an AMRAAM “D” it wouldn’t stress to much an F 35 driver…
basically, agains a mig29 (80s model) you’ll have a good chance of survival, but against a more or less modern threat from now and in the next 15 years, you’ll be about as well armed as the F-105 in vietnam… er, no.. on the seconds thought, the F-105 had speed, at least… the F-35 won’t even have that
I don’t understand why use F 105 as a yardstick for bad fighters. After all, he downed ~ 30 MiGs in Vietnam, while travelling loaded to their ground targets ! Or, you didn’t know this little detail ?
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In other words: the same plan that failed in Vietnam…
In which way, may I ask ? Even with Russian-provided MiGs that were better (at least in some part of fight enveloppe), even if the first-line fighter (F 4) didn’t get a gun for more than half of the war, even with the poor Pk of firsts generations Sidewinders and Sparrows, even with lack of BFM training (that lasted much of the Vietnam war), US still managed to obtain an over-all 4:1 ratio.
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Two first impressions:
-the wing root/LERX reminds me of F 16 XL;
-this thing is HUGE! It seems that in terms of size the PAK-FA/F 22=Flanker/F 15. Even with lots titanium and composites, its empty weight may be ~ 22-23 tons.
Well, NGJ is a dedicated jammer. Or are you speaking of internal dedicated?
In that case, they can have one if it is deemed needed.
Yes, an internal one. Check this F 15 SE media briefing: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/03/f-15-silent-eagle-media-briefi.html page 14, 15. You may see the emitters in the wing roots and in the aft end. It is known that the DEWS of the F 15 SE is a descendant of the F 35’s ASQ 239 (“Baraccuda”). I also doubt that BAE Systems North America would develop jammers only for a potential 100 or so of potential F 15 SE. Ergo, the F 35 could very well be fielded with internal jammers. The fact that it’s nothing official, make sense. Many things that put F 35 apart from ordinary fighters are classified.
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1. The F-35 can jam using it’s APG-81.
2. The NGJ is being built with the F-35 in mind.
3. There is room throughout the airframe (including the leading edge sensor bays) to install an onboard jammer if it is ever requested.
I’m talking about dedicated jammers and not to use AEASs for that pupose; and not as a further develppment, but at IOC.
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It seems that’s accepted that the F 35 won’t have a jammer. I am not so sure.
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Your problem is the F-16C can do 9 G with 330 kt + IAS related to weight.
Yes, sure…
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Have I mentioned Bill Sweetman? No! The next time you complain about Carlo Kopp, while no one talks about him.
The point is the F-22 is capable to sustain such high AoA due TVC, the F-35 is based on a similar aerodynamic concept, but lacks TVC. That’s why I’m curious about this claim. The soft limits I mentioned for a couple of fighters can be achieved without risk of departure during a manoeuvering fight. The 55? is unlikely to be achieved on all conditions. It’s apples with oranges.
The article about F 35 doing 55 deg. appeared in Aviation Week. Many people are very eager to quote anything negative it apears in AvWeek about F 35, usually signed by our friend Sweetman. But when someone say something positive about F 35, suddenly AvWeek is no more a reliable source…BTW, from the same article: F 35 can make a 9G turn at 370 kt. An F 16 blk. 52 can’t do it below 470 kt. It may give you a hint about how maneuvrable is the F 35.
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there are 2 dedicated jammer platforms, one uav pod and the [starts with m-j kinda like a cruise missile]
i wouldnt say only ecm
It’s called MALD-J and is made by Raytheon.
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i;m quite happy to discuss it in a civil manner if you are, which your wrong are you referring to
Many subjects can’t be discussed in a civil manner with some of the members; anything related to US provoke them Tourette syndrome :p
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I’ll believe it if I see it.
No :rolleyes:
I got it : when Sweetman say something negative in Aveek about the F 35 that’s gospel; when something positive is mentioned there, you’ll believe it when you see it…
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The Thunderbirds #6 jet was traveling at approximately 250 MPH, just 140 feet above the runway at the time of his ejection. The F-16 struck the runway and exploded less than ONE SECOND after Capt. Stricklin had safely ejected.
The Split-S maneuver at takeoff calls for a “limiter pull”. This was supposed to be a pull on the Angle of Attack (AOA) limiter, which flies the jet at Max coefficient of lift and yields the tightest possible turn for the given energy state. Capt. Stricklin pulled back on the stick approximately 1000 feet too low, at approximately 2500 feet above ground level, and found himself in a position where he couldn’t complete his maneuver safely. Neither Stricklin nor his ground backup noticed the error when he called his altitude at the apex of the Split-S.
It is unfortunate that neither Capt. Stricklin or his ground backup realized his mistake soon enough to abort the maneuver and save his jet; but he did make all the right decisions once he realized that he was too low to complete the maneuver safely. He steered his jet away from the crowd and got out. His mistake cost him the completion of his tour with The Thunderbirds, but he lives to fly another day.
No one was hurt in, or as a result of, this crash. Capt. Stricklin was transferred to another squadron at the completion of his Pilot Review Board and was returned to flying status. The Thunderbirds resumed their schedule in October and completed their season with just five pilots. They will add a sixth pilot and return to business as usual in March.
Even with soft limits at hand there is a maximum lift to counter the gravitational force.
And…?
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Even the Su-35 with it monster radar based on same principles, based on same electronic scanning concepts with the same ‘frequency velocity’…is meant to carry ECM and not to jam with it Irbis
Wrong example. The Irbis, as powerfull as it is can’t be used as a jammer. It’s a PESA and a PESA has only one emitter (well, in case of Irbis that’s two). An AESA have 1000-1200 of them, so multitasking has another meaning here.
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