So even if you have an aesa you still need a dedicated jammer to do real ecm.
IN A-G yes, since ground based early warning readars use lower frec. (L-band). In A-A an AESA would do fine.
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The aircraft can also reach a 55-deg. angle of attack in trimmed flight, while most fighters, excluding the F/A-18, are limited to 30 deg.The aviationweek people do not have a high opinion about their readers or the other way around, when they do not give some important details.
Either way you missed the details about that. The F-16 has hard limits for safety reasons and it is ~25? AoA, which does allow the F-16 to fly all combat maneuver in need. The F-18 has a similar limit, but it is a soft limit to go behind as many other fighters too. During testing the F-35 does explore its flight limits and by that it does not have hard limits to prevent that. For service use a soft limit in the twenties will be introduced for the same safety reasons like the others.
You entirely missed my point: the 55 deg. angle is sustained not transient. In english for you and Scorpion: the F 35, at low speed, can fly at 55 deg. until it run out of fuel.
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In terms of range those numbers are actualy superior to the original ATF KPP?s…
The original KPP for ATF was 1.5 M something that an EF would never dreamed of…
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250 NM supercruise plus 30 min CAP on internal fuel its not “bingo real quick”… Not here not in the moon…
EF official numbers from the 2006 Norway presentation.
Except that the speed is somewhere around 1.05 M :p
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We talk about the angle of attack yes. The soft limit isn’t where your airflow starts to depart, that would be the critical AoA. The soft limit is lower and is imposed by the FCS with some safety margin on top of that. The 55? AoA F-35 is the max AoA or similar to the 100?+ of a Rafale or Gripen, this isn’t sustained and just achieved in specific conditions and usually not applicable in combat. The Raptors high AoA is achieved with TVC, something the F-35 lacks. If the Lightning II sustains 55? in a alpha pass or rolls around its longitual axis at such AoA let us know. I doubt we’ll see it ever. And don’t mistake your kind with me thanks.
Really? Swallow this:
The aircraft can also reach a 55-deg. angle of attack in trimmed flight, while most fighters, excluding the F/A-18, are limited to 30 deg.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/F35-030509.xml&headline=F-35%20Air%20Combat%20Skills%20Analyzed&channel=defense
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New article on the Romanian deal:
So they have not signed this transparancy code document? I wonder why not?
Offering “free F-16” and then F-35 in 2020 is a clever move. “Free” sounds good to the politicians, and “F-35” sounds probably good to the air force — if they can afford it, that is.
On the other hand 100% offset is not bad either.
When is the decision due?
SAAB may offer the planes for free and stilll loose…Romania will buy only from US. As for transparency code…it doesn’t matter. Let’s say one of the conditions imposed in the RFP will be that the planes will be VLO…Guess who’s gona win :diablo:
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No he hasn’t. It is not worth the time to go through every single event but PLENTY of events in the F-35 program have occured EARLIER than he implied (or outright prognosticated) would. Anyone/everyone reasonably well informed on the F-35 program knew full well in late 2008 that the program was not going to meet all scheduled events for 2009. BUT Sweetman has contsantly made it out to be that each & every event that did not occure on schedule was a sign of a ‘death spiral’ leading to the ultimate failure of the program. It did not matter if the event occured one week late, if it did not occure when it was scheduled Sweetman was shouting from the mountain top that the program was in shambles & on the verge of complete failure.
It was particularly sad to see/read during the last quarter of 2009 Sweetman come out with article after article spouting how little time the program had left to meet all scheduled events by the end of the year as if the program did not some how ‘pull a rabbit out of its hat’ & complete the ENTIRE 2009 schedule by the end of the year that midnight on Dec 31, 2009 marked the End of Days for the entire program.
IF he had any objectivity he would have rather pointed out that the program was running 4-6 months behind schedule AND that that is nothing out of the ordinary NOR is it anything to be alarmed about.
Not only this, but he dedicated poems to eurocanards, especially to gripen. In his view, anything US is pure thrash compared to the mighty swedish little thing…
http://www.key.aero/view_news.asp?ID=1453&thisSection=military
Hi ELP, missed you…
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For the Spanish speakers on the forum: is there a mention in this clip about the EF-F15 confronation? Maybe some details? Thank you in advance. http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/01/eurofighter-boasts-usaf-f-15-k.html
Scorpion82 & toan, it could be that it’s old news , but why now, EF site felt obliged to post it ?????? It’s just a desperate step to shadow the UAE failure.
Guys, let’s get serious…The exercise in Canaries was in March 2009 !
At that time, it seems that it wasn’t a big deal. It could be that the F 15 C were in the red team, so they could not use the JHMCS/9X combo. Or as in Cope India 2004 they used a “notional” missile (it was BVR there, but it could also apply to WVR missiles) that had a limited off boresight angle. In that case all came down to maneuvrability, so no surprise that EF had an upper hand.
But the very fact that they un-digged a story that it passed unnoticed then, say a lot about how serious was the Al Dahfra defeat for EF. I was never a Rafale fan, but this “story” show a desperate try from EF to show that their bird is not so crappy after all…
It is very funny. It is not just the Papa Bear, even Uncle Sam dosen’t want Israeli stuff in their shells. IMO its a pure insult telling Uncle Sam or Papa Bear that your stuff is useless and mine is better. I have heard stories how russians pull out exhibits when Israelis come that way.
Israel knows that next war, they can be string pulled. It would be better to see them team up with Indian MCA program or Chinese FGFA program. All they need is shell and engine.
Just some little details:
-Israel won’t buy F 35s, they will receive them from US for free. When they are given to you, you can’t oblige the donor to obey to your terms;
-it is normal that US insist that all the money given by the US taxpayers will be spent on US goods;
-Israel can team with Indians, Chinese, whoever, but this solution won’t come for free.
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Other guys? I think we’re dealing with multiple personality disorder here, not physically separate individuals.
Seems the irony was too subtle…
i miss fonk. 😮
Be carrefull what you wish…
Definately not the same style either.
Correct: no “son’ or “mickey”…