– About the numbers:

– I would expect that a 125m aircraft would exceed the performance of a 30m F/A-18C or a 55m -E/F, and it will. But is it worth the cost for the modest increase in performance that the F-35C offers vs. the F/A-18E/F on the 2nd and subsequent days of war? Would it be more cost effective to buy just enough F-35C’s to fill a few squadrons to use on the initial strikes?

The 30 mil. for F 18C and the 55 mil. for the F 18 E are the flyaway prices while the 125 mil is the program unit cost that includes infrastructure, spares, service, R&D.
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I think you forgot MiG-31 etc in the rush.

I have to agree with you with the MiG 31. However, the F 15 is no match for the F 15 in speed in real conditions.

Btw has anyone seen, heard, or read of an F-22 going M1.85+ last 1 1/2 year ?

Has anyone seen/heard/read of another plane going as fast as the F22 in the last 1 1/2 year ? :diablo:
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Originally Posted by MSphere
Unfortunately, the F-22 isn’t by far the fastest aircraft USAF has. If you already have a situation where you REALLY NEED to take out some very important target very fast, then launching an F-15 roaring at full speed with AB on brings you comparable/better results than doing the same with F-22.

The f 22 is the fastes plane, not only in USAF, but in the world, if we are talking about combat loaded fighters. Clean fighters, yes there are some that theoretically will go > 2M. But not in a real combat situation. And BTW, do you have any idea what’s the combat radius with of a F 15 without EFTs?
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So the bottomline continues to remain that someone from active Adla service has said what he has said, and not yet retracted his words. To me, the credibility of Mr. Grandclaudon’s statements increases since nobody worth their name has come out publicly to deny what the gent said.

USS.

On the contrary:
-a squadron leader from Langley AFB said the Raptor beat every fighter encountered;
-guys from RAF and Eurofighter consortium denied the 7:1 score;
-the french Air & Cosmos magazine described a totally differnt story about the F 22 vs. Rafale. A rather sad one for Rafale…
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lol, perhaps you should start by reading the whole article, nobody else can do that for you… 😎

Except that in the first articles about this exercise, the french sources “forget” to mention that.

BTW, when doing SEAD, F 16 CJ always carry the (small) HTS pod…

… And about the f-22 vs m2000-9, you’ll be happy to learn that a special patch was created by the Air Force to celebrate the event 😉

If you believe that…:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
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djcross :

djcross , this is where many people from various countries say “”stop the bull…t .
It is claims and nothing else . The toolsets and analysis to develop the F-22 are telling LM that the F-35 is a dog :diablo:

This toolset, called TAC Brawler simulation was used in predicting the perfomances of fighters such F 15, F 16 and F 22. The simulations concluded that those will be stellar performers. Guess what? They were right…:diablo: And no, those simulations weren’t perfromed LM, but by USAF.

Of course , as far as I am concerned , Europe Carriers (UK , Spain , Germany , Italy) should have gone with the Rafale (or Trafale) .
By trying to sink the European aircraft industry and making big money , LM only wrecked the entire US future fleet by giving them … a dog

Since when Germany operate carriers? This gem alone says a lot about your knowledge…

jackjack :

No . The F119 ‘s cool air bypassing chamber surrounds the whole length of the engine , the F135 doesn ‘t exhibit the same design . Then , the F119 ‘s nozzle is made to mix the cool air with the hot gases from the exhaust .
Look carefully at the drawings :

F119 :

F135 :
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Cheers .

http://www.pw.utc.com/Products/Military/F135Look at the two rows of nozzles. Wonder what flows bewteen them…:D

Since the first APG 63(V)3 has recently been delivered to 125 FW (Florida ANG) it is worth to compare its antena with the APG 77.

It seems that the 63′ it’s much bigger.
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